Owner Operator Break Down

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by toni_d_2003, May 9, 2012.

  1. Ruthless

    Ruthless Road Train Member

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    Sounds good...I do enough jobsites to know that lulls aren't always in use. Most jobsites I do are for roofing, which means crane...which means be there on time or pay for lost time.
    I contract to a carrier, I lost my motor a few months back under load. 4 hours from jobsite 10 hours before the appointment. I got another contractor to swoop it up and deliver it, I made 0 dollars from that load. Got 2 healthy tow bills before getting it to a place that could/would handle the work.
    I believe I was in a good position, as I had a friend right behind me and it was still only early evening when it happened. I had the people I contract to on the phone in a few minutes, and we made a bum situation work.
    If I have an appointment window, 9/10 of the time I'll be there more than a half hour early. Maybe they are moving at a faster speed (hey, it happened once lol) and I want to be there early to see the set up and make sure there are no issues to be dealt with last minute.
    With general stock freight to a distributor or warehousing agent, they tend to offer much more leeway...In only one instance that happened to me.
    I bill detention. I give them the 2 hour window, but soon as that's up I'm charging. I don't care what the reason. Had one in Newark next to the stadium a few months ago, iso fell from the crane rigging due to rigger error. It fell several stories and hit the fellow who incorrectly attached it. OSHA closed the job, I was the next truck to be unloaded. Billed for all time. As RBHT said, it certainly doesn't pay enough to justify missing another load. At least I'm being compensated (however poorly) for my time.
    $35 an hour isn't bad, but I can make more running and I'll certainly feel less stress regarding commitments I've made.
     
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  3. FLATBED

    FLATBED Road Train Member

    I am not saying just the heck with the load but if people are waiting and you break down most likely you will be late.

    Its called getting NATIONAL accounts for tires GOOD YEAR , MICHELIN , not 1 at BUBBAS Tire & BAIT , repairs depending on the make of your tractor KW , PETE , FREIGHTLINER for rental RYDER . Still use your local guys if its the day to day stuff but 1200 miles from home it makes sence to be prepared.

    Yes you might be late but you made an effort to rectify the situation long before the situation occurs.

    You make it sound like your the only 1 that ever experienced a breakdown :biggrin_25523: I could write a book on them and the hassles averted by being prepared.
     
  4. skateboardman

    skateboardman Road Train Member

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    the crane usually doesnt have to be arranged months in advance.

    that really hard to do. what usually happens is when a co. finds a arrival date for the product, they then lock down a crane appointment. i have gotten cranes with less than a week notice, but usual time was 7 to 10 days.

    i set modular houses by lifting them off the carriers and setting them on foundations, i would finalize the set by when i could get a crane.

    th cranes charge from the time they leave their yard to when they get back to thir yard, unless you arrange a flat rate.

    a 100 dollar an hour crane is a small one. i used a minumimum of 90 ton up to 200 ton, which depended on size of units and how far they would have to boom out.

    they would would from 250 dollars and hour and up depending on size of crane and if they supplied the rigging. avg was about 2250 to 2500 per job.

    if you are sitting waiting a truck , you look at 250 an hour just for the crane , plus workers.

    i myself never charged cranes back to a truck, i ran 8 trucks and would always have one on site to manuever dropped sections of house, in the event of a breakdown i could go get the unit, and i understood crap happens. i was a rarity.

    you do what you have to do and if ya stay in touch , things work much better.
     
  5. FLATBED

    FLATBED Road Train Member

    A few months ago the SHOE was on the other foot so to speak.

    Truck that broke down and screwed everything up was bringing the last part of the TOWER CRANE :biggrin_25523:. His rigging crews , crane assembler crew as well as 2 LARGE mobile cranes + operators sat for 8 hours waiting on him.

    Other times its not the CRANE its the need for what the truck is hauling. If you have a CHILLER and they need it to be lifted at a certain TIME you screw up a lot of SCHEDULES
     
  6. skateboardman

    skateboardman Road Train Member

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    yep it always what needs lifting, i never had to wait on a crane they were always there, most times i brought the sections in the evening before and stripped them while the crane was setting up.
     
  7. SHC

    SHC Spoiled Rotten Brat O/O

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    The rates I get for a job site delivery don't require me to charge detention, I figure in advance that I will be there all day and charge accordingly.

    Most of the time it's more of the fact they hired a crew to install whatever I am delivering and if I don't get there on time, the crew cannot complete the job thus requiring them to hire them for another day.

    I've had plenty of loads where I could be late or show the next day because they were using a 20T for the unload or what have you. I was just trying to state that calling the receiver or getting a "repower" isn't really the only way things can go. Now if your leased to a Major van company then the likely hood is higher and pay will be determined by what is stated in your contract with that company.
     
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