CSA and crashes

Ladyblue379 · May 14, 2012

I was able to find out my CSA score here at Roadside Resume. It was free to sign up, Hope this helps. Have a Great Day and Be Safe
https://www.roadsideresume.com/

revelation1911 · May 14, 2012

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I had thought about it, but at the time it was our "only" accident on record. Also I did call the officer that wrote the ticket, he opinion was that since the lady had come behind the trailer and (in his words) had established her presence in the right lane, she had right of way.

He said that since we were crossing lanes we were at fault, the only problem with this is that (according to my driver) he caught out of the corner of his eye and was either stopped or almost stopped when she struck our front wheel..
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You were asking the wrong personI never ask a officer anything once I see the way it's going and I never allow any addmission of fault.You'd be suprised how often the police are wrong.

KANSAS TRANSIT said: ↑

I agree with your last sentence, but in all honesty I still feel as thou it was our fault, the problem with a lot of these accidents is that your insurance company really doesn't want to fight on your behave.

IF they can settle it for a reasonable sum they would rather pay out than defend you, of course now with CSA it leaves you holding the bag..
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I never use feelings as to fault, I use fact, logic and reason. I have a wife that runs on feelings and emotions. The accident I was in in CT. I told my insurance company I wasn't at fault and provided pictures and they didn't pay that woman. No accident on myMVR and no reportable accident so all went well that time. They don't really care if you don't press the issue, cause your the one who will pay in the end in some form.

KANSAS TRANSIT said: ↑

Yeah, I knew of course it wasn't our fault, I just didn't expect our point score to jump like that. There is definitely a lesson here thou;

Just because it seems like a small infraction at the time you really have to look at the big picture and you now have to pick your battles in order to manage your exposure.
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You see now the importance of even small things. A dig. camera and small recorder can save you many dollars, it has me before. Instructing drivers in the do's and don't's at a accident is important too.NEVER ADMITT FAULT.

KANSAS TRANSIT · May 23, 2012

Tazz, did you ever get an answer on this??

Brace for impact

If it makes you feel better we had a guy thrown by a Tornado. Picked his 45,000 lb butt up and slung him into the ditch. Yep DOT reportable

I'll have to ask Kelvin Monday when I turn in my latest inspection if it changed our ranking.

Tazz · May 23, 2012

Sorry I forgot to ask him. My apologies. He started in about log book violations and it slipped my mind.

I'll make a reminder if I get back in time Friday.

Tazz · May 26, 2012

Kelvin said yeah our ranking went up. He also told me a new reg or change to the system is gonna have a way to remove non-fault accidents. Yeah not perfect but what is.

He did not have the release about the change but he said it either came down or is coming down next week.Basicall if your report assigns no fault to your carrier you DATAq it through the agency filing the report and they pull it. He said that as CVSA and ATA asked for this change the FMCSA feels a record should be made but then DATAq's can have them removed from CSA methadology.

When I get something on that change in concrete I'll post it.

KANSAS TRANSIT · May 31, 2012

Thanks tazz
appreciate the info

KANSAS TRANSIT · Jun 11, 2012

Cat sdp- You do actually have a driver score but only the FMCSA can see the drivers score. Anything that has impact on your carrier score will most likely impact your driver score. You can find what affects your driver score in "CSA Handbook A Complete Guide for CMV Drivers" we got our book from our insurance company which I believe gets them from JJ Keller. Follow this link for some info: http://www.jjkeller.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/content____csa-faq_10151_-1_10551

Tazz · Jun 19, 2012

http://www.truckinginfo.com/news/news-detail.asp?news_id=77145&news_category_id=3

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The issue is a particular sore point for ATA.

Under CSA, a carrier's safety performance is rated in part on the crashes it is involved in, no matter who is at fault. The agency has explained that its data shows that crashes, with or without fault, are reliable predictors of future performance.

But the agency also has agreed with ATA that there should be a way to account for fault in the data, and has done preliminary work on a way to get that done.

Then in what ATA believes was a sudden reversal, the agency last February backed away from a plan to request comments on its new approach.

Agency Administrator Anne Ferro explained at the time that safety advocacy groups raised questions about the plan that need to be answered before the agency goes forward.

The questions have to do with the uniformity and consistency of the Police Accident Reports that provide the basic accountability data, and the lack of public input into the determination of accountability.

The agency said it needs more information on how to identify carriers with the greatest risk of future crashes. Specifically, the agency wants to evaluate the uniformity and consistency of police accident reports, and to establish a process for assessing crashes in a uniform way.
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OK maybe not so fast

It looks like some form of consistent police report is coming from a couple articles I perused. I am not real sure how I feel about that coming down from the feds to local authorities but I understand their need for consistency in accounting for crash data.

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