2010 Pete with Cummins isx 550

Dang dude, whats up with all the Volvo hate? Did a Volvo run over your dog or what? LOL yikes.

 

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Where are all. these trucks at, show us the results and as I said you will see a power increase but it will void you engine warranty and not worth the .001 increase in fuel mileage. I want to see these trucks thats getting a 50% increase in fuel mileage

 

Trucks are like men's preference in women. Blonde, red head, brunette, etc. I'm more like a pimp. It is what is going to make me the most money (with in reason).

When I was researching back in 2010, a 780 with D12 had one of the best ROIs on the market (based on year, mileage, etc that I was looking at). And this was looking at true industry data not what internet cowboys believe.

You want to look at depreciation and not resale value as a measurement. Back then, a W900 would have had an extra $10k in depreciation over 5 years.

As business people we need to understand the difference between wanting a red head vs. a red head is the best. Most are using financial justification to get into the truck they prefer. And not saying getting in the truck that makes you happy is a bad thing (because a Columbia had a much better ROI than my Volvo). We see it on the forums all the time. People run with what they want to hear and ignore what they don't want to hear.

 

Normally I agree with most of what you say, however, you can't calculate depreciation without knowing what the resale value is or is going to be, it's impossible. That's what depreciation is, it's the residual value minus the purchased price.

About the ROI for that Volvo, it's bogus. Not you for stating it but the data that was used, it is the same data that allot of people used, only to find out it's BS. Now if that Volvo had a Cummins in it, it's a different story. Now please here me out and please look this up.
The biggest retailer of Volvo's trucks with a Volvo engine other than Volvo Dealers is Arrow Trucks. Arrow Trucks uses a financing company called Transport Funding, that company is owned by Volvo Financial. Isn't it in Volvo's best interest to approve loans propping up residual value, hence making depreciation & ROI look much better than it actually is.

 

J-U-N-K! But don't take my word for it, lets let Mr.Plumbcrazy share how awesome they are.
Wheel bearings!
Just replacing a tail light is a major deal with a junk Volvo!
What!! Why sue the greatest truck MFG on the planet?

Blue Becon truck washes had a sign posted that they were not allowed to spray the steering box on a Volvo with water because they way it was mounted it would get water inside and ruin it, way to go Volvo!!! The list goes on and on, recalled for steering problems, NHTSA investigating front end issues, at one time the steering collumn would fall into the drivers lap for no apparent reason! As Mr.Plumbcrazy found out they're all spec'd with sealed componants (u-joints, steering joints, wheel bearings) and these don't last as long as the serviceable ones. Oil bath bearings and greaseable joints are the standard for most trucks but because people are lazy and to look good on paper companies like Volvo are using sealed parts. Let's not even start with the electrical gremlins! Buying one with a Cummins is bad enough but to willingly buy one with a Volvo motor and you deserve what you get!

Are you blind? On the first page is exactly the issues associated with these motors.

Now let me explain this again, when you do a full delete you remove or gut the DPF (issue #1 in the above quote) You also remove the turbo (issue #2 in the above quote) fuel mileage increases (issue #3 in the above quote). Ask anyone with one of these motors what they've used their engine warranty for and they'll tell you DPF-EGR-VGT. You still with me? If you remove all these problematic pieces YOU DON'T NEED THE WARRANTY!!!!! Unless you have a spare truck or a warranty that pays for your down time your an idiot to worry about a warranty while your truck is putting you out of business. If you choose to leave it stock BY ALL MEANS do it. Do a quick search for deleted ISX's and see all the people with the deletes done and see how many claim a REDUCTION in fuel mileage. What's probably the funniest part of all of this is you, who can probably barely post on a forum are saying what can and can't be done with an ECM.

What results would you like me to show you? A box of ceramic material out of gutted DPF's, how about a stack of removed intake pipes off ISX's. I think I could have the guys who actually do the programming tell you what's possible and you would still claim they can't.

 

As an owner of a 780 with Cummins power. My second by choice. I will mostly agree with jfaulk as I did the egr delete on last truck and loved it. However, electrical gremlins aside ,there are easy fixes to be had. Run a new ground and power cables to the batteries and use copper cable from battery to battery and most if not all of those electrical problems will disappear. As for the sealed hubs etc. Yes those suck but can b replaced just like anything else. And as a former driver of a freightliner with an egr Detroit before the 2 Volvo's....Ill take my Volvo everytime. And this too will eventually do a dpf egr delete. Never had a problem with the vgt on either truck.

 

Volvo isn't the only one with electrical issues. International was famous for putting 11 3/4" of wire between two connections 12" apart.

 

If it isn't a peterbilt or kenworth its junk give me a 3406e cat any day over all this emission crap I'm driving a 2010 Pete with a 550 isx cummins engine is tempermental sometimes it runs good going threw the gears other times it falls flat on its face

 

one of the guys posted on here he has some mechanical background and explained it's against regs to tamper with emissions devices.

as a retired auto mechanic. i will wholeheartedly agree with that statement. and the fines aren't cheap.

i've been looking at doing the egr delete with the ecm thing. and the two shops i've been considering for such operation both say don't let cummins see it. cuz they will rewrite the egr. by truck is passed any warranty though.

i don't think my egr is functioning. i once was getting better mileage. but now it's worse. from when i first started driving my truck. i suspect it might be time for new air filters though. 2500 miles of rain and snow can't possibly be good for the paper filaments. but i've had egr codes that come and go for the past 2 months now.