HOS rules on private land?
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by retiredguest, Jun 24, 2012.
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And I suppose they should also haul the cow to market to have it milked by your analogy, instead of bulk hauling the secondary?

Either way, it's less than 100 air miles, it's subject to a 16 hour day, and it involves, albeit circuitously, or as a by product of actual cutting/grinding a product of the soil.
Also notice the second part.
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No log on private property ? So, that means you can fuel on line 1, right ? Truck stop is private property. I do know Ca. rules RE: 100 air miles and not needing a log book....and you also cannot drive more than 12 hour shifts, so your 3 load days aren't legal, anyway you cut it. Aggregate haulers are the worst offenders, that always want them 14 hr days, "just one more load", right ?
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Got it figured out. I'll just follow the 16 hour rule, looked it up on dmv website. Drive time no more than 12 and no more than 16 total on duty, and I can do that legal. The other driver is looking for trouble loging off duty on private land, and he doesn't even need to.
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The driver that told you that he is putting himself off duty on private land will get you in trouble, my advice to you, ask your state DOT or stop at a scale and talk to one of the officer's inside before they talk to you about it with a ticket and fine..............use your head and always double check your information and question eveything.........
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No offense, Allow me, but, local driving does run different rules than OTR. I presumed he meant his 10 hours for 2 loads included on duty time as he verifies and that meant he could do his driving of 12 within 16 which is legal.
In addition, Aggregate haulers aren't the worse, governments are as they can throw the rules out the window because of "emergency" conditions, and not have to worry about ramifications. Salting/Plowing crews are at it for days, 36 hours sometimes, because it's an emergency. But OTR drivers can't drive past the 14 no matter what, even in an emergency. (Theoretically)Last edited: Jun 26, 2012
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That's it in a nut shell. I'm back in a truck again after being gone for seven years. Kind of like riding a bicycle but the rules have changed somewhat. When I quit my last carrier back in 05, we were local but crossed over into Nevada so we were on the Federal HOS rules, and the one before that was strictly local within the same county so they didn't even run a logbook. California intrastate regulation says you can drive 12, on duty total of 16 and 80 hours in 7 days. You do need a 10 hour "off duty" reset before you can start your next shift.
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Oh, and the driver that told me that it's legal to log off duty on the private ranch used to work for CRE, so there you go. I was born at night but not lastnight
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Ummm.....retiredguest, you might want to re-read that section. You only need 8 hours off-duty for a daily reset.
It really gets confusing, which is why it's always best to read the rules oneself.
According to this, you can work 16 hour days, driving 12 hours a day and total 80 for the week (5 days) which gets you 80 hours a week, well under the 112 you're limited to in an 8 day period. Now the tricky part of this for you to be aware of is that according to this, your employer can allow you to drive no more than 12 hours in a 16 hour day, but only for a maximum of 28 days in one or two periods per calendar year, and I suspect that's why he wants you logging, because to do this, you're required to log.
Good Luck.Last edited: Jun 27, 2012
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Your local do logs for your boss and tell dot your doing local work and drive.
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