Paying percentage vs CPM

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by SW Transport, Jul 13, 2012.

  1. SW Transport

    SW Transport Bobtail Member

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    I did pose this question in another one of my threads but was afraid it would get buried within the rest of the thread and not get looked at so i figured I'd give it it's own thread.

    Can you guys shed some light on the ins and outs of paying a driver on a percentage basis vs paying him/her on a cents per mile basis? My theory is if the driver gets paid a portion of the load, than he will be more inclined to want to run loaded more of the time. The truck will be paid on a percentage basis so any empty miles will be "on the house". My problem is I'm not familiar with this type of pay scale. What is a good starting percentage? What is a good percentage for someone with experience? Where are the percentages usually capped? The company I work for pays by the trip, which I really don't care for. The driver can, at times, get the short end of the stick. Do driver's paid on a % tend to make more money over those paid CPM?

    By paying in this manner, does it change the driver's status at all? Would he still be considered an employee or does that make him an independant contractor?

    Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
     
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  3. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    If rates are good obviously everyone makes out good. Majority of drivers out there will always hopelessly be stuck in a miles mentality though. An employee will never be much concerned with out of route miles regardless how they are paid and will be inclined to treat the truck as a personal vehicle at the drop of a hat. Heard of percentage pay from 20-30% just depends on what your costs are,what the freight rates you're getting are,and what is acceptable profit to you.
     
  4. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    If you pay on percentage, you'll do best by finding drivers that are somewhat business savvy and are interested in the success of the business. That way, they'll be conscious of keeping expenses down and maximizing profit. Being paid on percentage, they will likely want (and should have) a say in what loads should be booked, which ones should be rejected, and what the minimum rate should be.
     
  5. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Trouble with that arrangement is they need to have 100% trust in dispatch. Cause when you give employees freedom like that they will end up rejecting loads for various reasons, some ridiculous,some not. Point is they are driving in their own world never once trying to find loads and don't have a clue about markets. This would be difficult with spot freight.
     
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  6. SW Transport

    SW Transport Bobtail Member

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    Trust me, I've seen some real winners come through here that are better at tearing up equipment than they are at driving it. I'm hoping to avoid some of that (I realize that you won't be able to avoid all of it) by setting up a good pay schedule and having good equipment. The rest will be up to me to hire the "right" people.

    That is exactly what I was hoping to accomplish by going that route (referring to the business minded driver). Would they generally be paid off of a percentage of the actual freight rate, or a percentage of the PROFIT from that load? I'm guess it would have to be a percentage of the freight rate. As for having a say in the loads pulled, again that's what I'm looking for. I want the driver to have input on where the truck runs and how long he/she stays out. Granted, I won't be able to make a profit if the driver wants to be home every night but that's something I'll have to work out with the driver prior to putting them into the truck.
     
  7. SW Transport

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    I understand what you're saying but this situation will be slightly different in that we won't be pulling loads from the spot market or load boards.
     
  8. rollin coal

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    You should have an easier go of it with predictable solid rates then. But obviously some contract loads will be your not so good ones that no-one wants but they still have to get covered. In the big picture it works but drivers are so short sighted in the here and now. You need good people skills. Screening process for prospects will have to be good. Not saying it can't be done but I sure don't envy anyone who has to hire drivers.
     
  9. SW Transport

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    I agree 1000% about hiring drivers. I'm amazed at some of the "drivers" that we've hired over the years. Absolutely HORRIBLE! It will not be an easy task trying to find the right person.
     
  10. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    Well, my arrangement is just the way I've described. We haul spot market exclusively, and my relationship with the owner is more of a partnership than an owner / employee situation. When he's busy and I'm empty, I search for and book the loads. We've decided on what our absolute minimum rate is, and we stick to that as much as possible. A flat percentage is paid on the total revenue from the load. If the load pays $1000 to the truck, then percentage is paid based on the $1000. It's the same with accessorials such as detention and layover pay. We haven't had a need to discuss driver load / unload charges, but I'm thinking that would be 100% to the driver. I have the responsibility to operate efficiently to maximize the company's profit, so I'm trusted to choose the lowest cost routing and keep the left door closed to get the load delivered. Many drivers aren't as overly conscientious, therefore they require mileage pay and fuel economy bonuses as an 'incentive' to get their job done. :)
     
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  11. JimTheHut

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    I have heard of some situations where the companies were not being honest about what the actual line haul was....thus shorting the drivers.
     
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