Need advice from an experienced O/O - juggling family and business

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  1. 379exhd

    379exhd Road Train Member

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    Hi guys,

    I need some advise from some o/o's with experience I'm in a bind and would like some advise on what to do. Situation is we're a family company (indicates a problem right there:biggrin_25523:). I'm listed as co-owner of the business and my dad is the owner but he has absolutely no clue what he's doing. I've handled the everything to deal with the compliance, Authority, the 2290, IRP, IFTA, insurance, filing system, lettering, and of course the finances. He says this is supposed to be a "TEAM" effort however he's not doing much of anything he's making either me or my mom do it for him. Guess today I've finally reached my breaking point our tractor had to go into the shop today, because it's got an oil leak from the head it's got an MXS cat and I've heard they've had trouble with some bolts in the head guess the rocker bolts and the bolts for the Jake housing are notorious for breaking but I'm no mechanic so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong there. Anyway while we're in the office he tells the owner "don't rush to our truck get to it when you guys are slow." Hello?!?! Earth to idiot if you want the tractor to be in Nebraska monday you don't go telling the owner "don't rush to our truck get to it when you guys are slow" especially when you're only slow day is Friday. And that brings me to my next point going to Nebraska we have to be up there monday to sign paperwork for the company weather the truck is ready or not I've already explained to the company that we might not have the tractor with us and they were completely fine with that so we're alright there. However HIS idea is that if the tractor isn't ready we'll drive my pickup to nebraska and spend $400 in fuel one way then drive my truck back home spending another $400 in fuel and then take the pickup back to Nebraska when we bring our tractor back and spend another $400 in fuel in my truck which totals $1200 now how much sesne does that make when I can drive my truck up there for $400 in fuel and fly him back home for around $250? that's a what $550 savings doing it my way. $1200 in fuel plus my truck'll have to be serviced when it gets back to nebraska the 3rd time.

    Now back to the service on the tractor I don't know exactly what it's going to cost to get the truck fixed yet as it just went in today but he wants to put this bill on the credit card instead of paying cash for it. Which makes no sense to me what so ever if we've got the money to pay for it why put it on a piece of plastic and pay the interest not to mention that card's probably about ready to melt with the way he's swiping it. He says this is supposed to be a team effort and that I don't know it all...and I'll give him that I don't but I'm trying to be logical instead of being stupid. When it comes to business sometimes you have to do what makes more sense money wise than what's convienent. Then again if it's supposed to be a TEAM effort why am I doing 98% of the work for the company while he sits around and plays solitare? I guess after today I'm beginning to think if doing 98% of the work is worth 33% of what we take home. I do most of the work but it has to be run HIS way and I'm giving serious consideration into pulling my name from the business and just finding a company to drive for. I don't even think the worst trucking company on the planet would screw me half as bad as he is right now. I just need some advise here on what you guys think I should do. My family of course says I should stay and work it out but when you're dealing with somebody that won't listen to anything I'm trying to tell him. He tells everybody we're around that he doesn't really know what he's doing and says that I've got a better understanding on this than he does but when we get home it's his way or the highway. Well if you made it this far thanks for putting up with my ranting, raving and complaining. If you've got any ideas on what I should do let me know I'm open to just about any suggestions at this point.

    Thanks
     
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  3. brianv31

    brianv31 Light Load Member

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    salvage your father-son relationship and get out of the business relationship asap
     
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  4. theedle

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    ditto

    seconded

    amen!

    Etc
     
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  5. 379exhd

    379exhd Road Train Member

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    thanks for the reply's guys that's what I was leaning towards just didn't want to make a decision without asking for somebody's advice.
     
  6. ralph

    ralph Road Train Member

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    Nothing wrong with using plastic IF you pay it off in full every month.

    You can exercise "Plan B" and buy your own truck(s) and run them the way you want.
     
  7. Oscar the KW

    Oscar the KW Going Tarpless

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    That is my first thought as well, however, if you get out and his inabilitys bring this business down on him, will he blame you? I think you need to get him alone and have a good heart to heart with him. See if you can get things worked out with him before you just jump ship.
     
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  8. RedForeman

    RedForeman Momentum Conservationist

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    Son? Is that you? LOL.

    Not to make light of your situation, but I can relate to this from the "Dad" side of the story. And I'll also note that there has to be more to the story, and I respect you for not putting all your dirty laundry out there. You don't state you and Dad's ages, financial stakes in the business, backgrounds in trucking (and business for that matter), exact roles, and whatnot. And you really don't need to. Here's what I'm talking about:

    Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm sensing the handling of the truck break down is the tip of the iceberg. There seems to be a couple of bigger undercurrents in play that are making it a bigger deal than it is.

    1. Friction about everyone's contribution to the business as a whole. Honestly, you're sounding too much like a victim. Maybe you are. There's a lot of resentment in your post about what Dad isn't doing, and why his decisions don't have much merit. Maybe you're right. You and your Dad (sounds like Mom is involved too) need to see eye to eye on roles, responsibilities, and decision authority. Get that fixed right now, before you even move on to the repair issue. Sounds like you're the sole driver. If you're out there OTR with this resentment churning around in your head every waking moment, it's going to end badly. It may not be this repair issue. Or the next. It may not be a blow out. Your business may unwind with death from 1,000 cuts. Maybe your Dad isn't clear on what things you depend on him for, or how critical certain things on that list are to you. If you can't come to terms, you need to be prepared to negotiate an exit strategy. No matter how emotional it gets, you can't dump a pile of crap on your family because you have hurt feelings over doing too much of the work. Maybe they were näive about what it was really going to take to back you in business. Maybe your family is just not in the right place for this business right now. If you can't compromise on running the business, you need to at least shut it down in a way that preserves your family relationship and has everyone coming out the other end as whole as possible.

    2. Difference in strategy. Maybe there's a reason your Dad thinks it best to handle this repair the way he's doing it. Maybe there's funding or cash flow issues he's not been perfectly clear about. Maybe you're thinking optimistically about the repair completion and payment milestones and handling methods. Maybe he trusts your mechanical insight but doesn't trust your ability to handle the negotiation of time and payment. I can't tell. You need to take a hard look at this scenario end-to-end and ask yourself: is the way he's handling this really that bad? If so, you need to be clear about exactly what you disagree with and negotiate it. Not argue. Not rant. Negotiate. Check your emotion. Demand an understanding of his position and logic, then see if you still have a problem. If the truck's going to be down two weeks, don't panic over hours or a day or two. He may be planning that long ride in the pickup to do exactly this with you (quality time with a captive audience) and you're just too mad to see it coming. It would probably be the best use of the extra gas money that you never expected.

    I have had a couple of hot conversations with my own son in the course of our own business venture. It happens in every business relationship, and even more when family is involved. In our case it almost always starts with some sort of setback (scheduling, break downs, etc) with him having too much time to think. Add to that, he almost never sees me working. He gets his dispatches and an occasional call to see if a load is going to work. Think about that a minute. Many times, I'm burning up the phones while he's sleeping off his 10 and all he sees is the end result of that. When he comes through for a break, he understandably doesn't stick around much. It makes it really easy for him to concoct a vision that I'm just lounging all the time surfing the internet, getting daily free showers, and sleeping in every morning while he's doing all the sacrifice and hard work. Be the bigger man and take this thing by the horns. Don't let resentment take over.

    PM me a phone number if you want to chat. I may not tell you what you want to hear, but I can probably offer you some insight. Coincidentally, we're facing some repair challenges at the moment that are much worse than what you've shared. It's hard on everybody. Don't let it get you stupid and irrational.
     
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