running red light? lawyer or no lawyer

Discussion in 'Trucker Legal Advice' started by thesvg, Mar 1, 2012.

  1. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    So this isn't your first time?

    On average a driver will get a ticket every five years or more. That said, it's cheaper to pay and move on. A couple points won't hurt a thing and will disappear in three years. Unless you are facing a serious traffic offense or risk losing your license or future jobs, the first ticket is a give me and move on. That's the way I look at it.

    But good luck with your fight. :)
     
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  3. thesvg

    thesvg Light Load Member

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    woa sorry for the absence lol, Well this is my first moving violation in years. but I usually get minor citations for no seat belt, or the cop cant understand my insurance. and over axle fines (which usually get thrown out) I did get a ticket for speeding one mile over the posted limit a while back, but that hasnt shown up on my record, I plead no contest, and paid the fine.

    on this particular red light case, I sent out a leter for discovery, and the court rejected it. I have source on the inside that works in the state, who gave me an engeneering manual, and Like i stated before, the lights arent properly timed. Plus a lot of signs are obstructing the right side of the light. So here's hoping the cop gets laid off, or the court house gets hacked lol :p
     
  4. gregw66

    gregw66 Bobtail Member

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    Can anyone recommend a traffic lawyer in or near Valencia, Ca. that can beat a lane violation... passing in the third lane
     
  5. Wooly Rhino

    Wooly Rhino Road Train Member

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    You excuse is that you were driving too fast for the road conditions? That will get you more problems then running the red light.

    Where was the cop? Ask for any video he has of the event. If he doesn't have it then you entered the intersection while the light was still yellow. You could not safely come to a stop before the light changed and therefore your duty to safety overrides the law to stop.

    Also you can try to point out that you were so drunk that you didn't know what you were doing.
     
  6. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    roadlaw is who ooida refers.

    google roadlaw
     
  7. thesvg

    thesvg Light Load Member

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    Update. The procecuter wanted some money on the side to throw out the case, the fat ### cop was going to get a cut too. Bunch of corrupt. SOB's I chose to face the judge

    The judge dismissed it on account the cop was on the opposite side of the road, and only turned around after he heard my horns. I told the judge I always sound the horns every time I cross the intersection that has a yellow light. Two weeks later city imstalled timers on the lights and prolonged the yellow.
     
  8. truckersjustice

    truckersjustice Light Load Member

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    Most of what you suggest that the driver ask for is pretty good advice. Complaints against the cop, statistical sheets showng types of charges and locations is probably not the type of thing that the court will order to be disclosed. It is not probative evidence as to whether the driver is properly charged. You may annoy the the judge asking for those things, and he is likely to be one adjudicating the case. If the prosecutor certifies the offense as a petty misdemeanor for sentencing purpose, then there is no right to a jury trial because the defendant cannot be put in jail if convicted. Thus, the judge would be the trier of the facts. The other things that you suggest the driver ask for though are perfectly reasonable discovery requests, although the request may be denied, in part.

    Overall, your advice has been pretty good.

    Paul Taylor
    Attorney at Law.
     
  9. truckersjustice

    truckersjustice Light Load Member

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    I remember when that was done. But, without having read the decision for a while, I believe that was because in Minnesota, the charge was made with only a photograph of the license plate and not of the driver. Thus, there was no evidence sufficient to show that the defendant charged was actually operating the vehicle identified through the photograph of the plate. The Minnesota case would have some precedential value but would not be controlling on the Courts in other states, although they could be persuaded by that.
     
  10. truckersjustice

    truckersjustice Light Load Member

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    It is the prosecution which has the burden. Why through yourself on the mercy of the Court? For example, I had a speeding case I had a couple of years ago, the Cop testified that the radar was turned on and that he witnesses the car at a high rate of speed. He never testified that he used the two tuning forks at the start and end of his shift to test if the radar is working properly. This is required for a radar citation in Minnesota. He never estimated the speed of the vehicle. Judge dismissed the charge.

    Some small town prosecutors are used to people pleading guilty to the charge, or to a reduced charge. They are not always competent trial attorneys or they are often poorly prepared due to heavy case loads. In the case of traffic tickets, prosecutors often "wing it." This is not always the case but sometimes it is that way and the defendant wins.
     
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