Hey everyone, I've been floating around the site for a while now and have noticed a very disturbing trend on here. Why is every thread from those of us looking to get into trucking or recently gotten they're CDL and looking at companies to start with get dragged into the mud by post after post of "this is the worst company to work for"? You have people who are making huge leaps in faith by changing careers that are honestly looking for some insight on which company to apply too and which to stay away from. My dad was a truck driver, drove for CRST and PTL and a couple other companies so I know to steer clear of them. I'm 36 and making a career change from being a service tech to possibly trucking since I've been laid off 3 times in the last 4 years. Trucking is in my blood and has always been a dream job for me, but I never went for it because when I got out of the Army in 99 I decided to go get a college degree that has proven to be a waste of time and money.
So here I am doing my research on which is the best course to take, should I just go to a local CDL school or should I opt to go for one of the companies that offers paid training. Being in NE Philly I have a couple options for CDL schools (All-State, AAA Trucking, and Smith-Soloman), as far as the paid training I'm considering it's a toss up between Prime and Swift. This brings me to why I'm here and why this site has made me question if this is really the best choice for me. Every thread I've clicked on in here asking if this school or this company is a good option is pretty much crapped on from the start and continues like that for pages and pages. I know what is involved in the job, I know about logging your miles, and layovers and blah, blah, blah. But the problem is what companies are actually good to start with? I find it hard to believe that every trucking company are lying cheating thieves that will suck out your souls, if that were the case they wouldn't have anyone who would want to drive for them. I'm ex military so I know recruiters will say anything to get you sign on the dotted line, but really they can't all be full of crap.
What I want is to get my CDL, get all the endorsements I can and get the first year under my belt, same as everyone else. I understand the first year sucks, I under stand the wages for that first year aren't that great, but $650 a week (which is what most companies are offering newbs) is about what I'm making now. My end goal is to do automotive transport, which apparently isn't really on anybody's radar which means less people to compete for a job with. I don't want to be an o/o, I have child support to pay so I can't afford to not make consistent money on a weekly basis.
So there's my intro. Please don't crap in my thread, unless you have something constructive to say please don't post. There's enough negativity in my life, please keep your negativity and drama away from me, I will not put up with it and will tell you to get stuffed point blank.
New guy, have my reservations about becoming a trucker now...
Discussion in 'The Welcome Wagon' started by ChaoticWarlord, Aug 13, 2012.
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I would go to a community college and get my training. You can get it at a fair price, get a student loan and possibly a grant. Then you are not committed to anyone other than paying the gov't back. Training companies train for a reason. They are large and have to fill seats. Students are a dime a dozen. So basically you are shopping for the best of the worst. Jump in there with the right attitude and get that first year behind you. Then you'll probably spend the next few years finding the right fit and company. Being a vet I know you'll handle it fine.
Chill out on your last sentence. That's why we are here. Use the report triangle if someone is trolling. We'll do the stuffing!
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Although I'm in a similar situation as you, and don't have a lot of experience in selecting an employer to share, I agree with CondoCruiser and the recommendation to consider community college training. It's what I did and completed in July of this year. In addition to the excellent training I received and low student to instructor ratio, there is a an "American Opportunity Credit" take advantage of if you are able to pay the tuition yourself. My understanding is that this tax credit was introduced by the 2009 Recovery Act, then extended through 2012 and is briefly described below:
* Maximum credit $2,500 (100% of first $2,000 and 25% of next $2,000 qualified expenses) per student
* Qualified expenses include tuition, fees, related expenses and course materials.
* Student must be enrolled at least half time in a degree or certificate program
* Phases out for MAGI of $80,000 - $90,000 ($160,000 - $180,000 joint filers)
IRS link: http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=205674,00.html
I share this in hopes that it provides another option for you to obtain your CDL without being tied to an employer that paid for your training, with an added bonus of possibly full tuition reimbursement next year at tax time
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Just know that you are going to have to run with a mentor/trainer wether you get your own CDL or train through a carrier program. And I suspect the apprenticeship period may be longer for those that did NOT attend their training program from the ground up. Prime would be a strong consideration for me if they are making you a worthwhile offer.
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Go look at the posts in the Prime folder under "Company DAC Reports," and search the Report a Bad Company folder for Prime threads. Most of us posting here have had a good experience with Prime, although you will find folks who post otherwise. Ask lots of questions. It's a toss-up... what works well for one person, may be total poison to another.
If you do choose to do driver training with Prime, you'll get your CDL tuition paid for in total - in return, they ask you to drive for one year after you become solo qualified. People sign cell-phone plans for longer terms. The army wants you for four years. One year is not as big a deal as many make it out to be. Even if you do choose the driver training school/junior college route, you'll still want to get a year or two's experience with your first carrier before jumping around. The difference? You'll still have $4500 to $6000 in your pocket if you choose the company driver training. -
Thanks for the info guys, being that I live in Philly the local CC don't offer CDL training and with 3 trucking schools in the area (AAA and Smith-Solomon a couple miles from each other) I don't see any of the Community Colleges offering such a program. I don't think I want to go with a paid training program because really there aren't any in my area and should I be cut for any reason I'd have to fork out the money to get home, money I don't have. Where as if I do a local school and then do the newbie training with Schneider, Swift, or Werner they have terminals with in an hour or 2 from my house so I can just take my car or have the girlfriend drop me off. I'm actually liking Schneider as a first choice anyway since they have a number of different avenues to take once your training is done, they offer a sign on bonus, tuition reimbursement and are VA certified so I can draw my GI Bill during the first year. Like i said, I've been doing my research, only thing I don't know is which of the 3 local trucking schools is the best option for me.
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First you have to ask yourself if you want to run the road or be local and home every night. While it is harder to get a local job fresh out of school, it is not impossible. I went to Smith & Solomon and got a local job the following day after getting my CDL in my hands. I have never had to run the road for an over the road carrier and hopefully never will, but as 1 person stated, what works for one may not work for another. Now if you decide you want local, go to smith & Solomon and ask the recruiter there if Old Dominion still hires students that graduate from S&S... If they still do, then you are in luck.... I used to work for OD and trained the rookies that got hired. I left OD on good terms and would go back if I needed to. No matter what you do, the first couple of years will be tough, but if you stick it out and make the effort to learn the business, you will be OK. I am in the same boat having to pay child support so I understand the role that plays in everyday life. I started driving in 1998 and I am still doing it today.... Whether I like the job anymore is a whole other thread, but it is paying my bills. The industry has changed a lot in the 14 years I have been in it but you either have to learn to adjust and adapt or leave the industry. It is true what you have read... Most of these OTR carriers/driver mills will hire you, cheat you, screw you and do what they can to take advantage of you.... How far you let them is up to you, but as stated, another rookie will be there to take your spot and learn for his or herself. Good Luck with whatever route you take to get your license.
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