hey guys,
I'm new to the owner operator business. I'm hauling for broker from westcoast to southEast with my truck and there trailer, but they are charging me trailer rent every-month like $500. I have money and want to buy my own so i don't have to pay that.
I would appreciate if you guys can give your input on what kind of trailer to look for, i have general knowledge but would like to learn more. I just started looking and i know i want Air-Ride and atleast 2002 or newer and can spend up to $10k .
I want something that is good,durable and doesn't cost me much on repair in the long run and if i ever add another truck can give this to my driver.
And this is going to 53ft trailer which can haul General dry Van Freight. Nothing specialized about it.
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Some questions i'm not clear about are :
(Dorsey,Utility,great-dane,wabash,strick,trailmobile) any brand that you guys stay away from or are they prettymuch same thing ?
- What is Duraplate ? I know it's wabash trailer , but are they better , are they worthit extra ,cause i seen some on truck paper and they cost extra?
- what type of roof is better Alumimuim/transculant or any other ? (my guess is Aluminum , i could be wrong).
- What kind of Floor to get ? what is wood liner ?
- Scuff, Plywood Lining. ?
- what is etrac, logistics post , logistic Seams ? which one is better ? (my current trailer has logistics post)
- what is Acid washed , i seen that in the ad paper
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- what about Roll-up-doors, why long-haul we get swing doors , I understand they are more for deleiveries, but why long-haul dont' use them , if i find a less expensive?
FoodGrade Trailer ? How do they determine if trailer is good enough ?
-Any other advice on what to inspect for when buying a trailer ?
Would appreciate any answers to above questions.
Need Advice on buying Dry Van
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by shawn_ca, Aug 17, 2012.
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In 2008 I bought a New Great Dane SSL. The deciding factor for me was the fact that if you ever need anything, just call any Great Dane Dealership, give them the VIN number (last eight digits), and he will pull up your trailer on the computer and tell you the part number, price, and if he has it on the shelf, which they usually do. They also have an agreement that they are pretty much able to do this with Strick Trailers as well. Great Dane has the absolute best aftermarket system of any. All the competition will ask you for the VIN, and then they will tell you that they will call you back, they then contact the manufacturer, the manufacturer might have the info right then, or they might not, in which case he will call the dealership back, then the dealership will call you back, sometimes you might wait until the next day for this info, I have waited two days, not so with Great Dane.
One thing to remember, some food shippers will not load a trailer that has a translucient roof, (fiberglass), it must be an aluminum roof. A food grade trailer is generally considered to be a trailer that does not have plywood sidewall liners, (sacks of food products on a skid, could rub against the wall, and pick up a splinter that might not be detected.) The SSL that I bought had a steel lining over the plywood wall liners to prevent this.
A DuraPlate trailer is a trailer without the traditional wall posts, about one and one fourth wall thickness, you can go to the Wabash National Trailer website and research this out. The Duraplate is theirs, the wall thickness is not near as thick as the normal sheet and post type trailer. This will come down to a personal preference issue.
If you are going to haul anything that might need nailed down, you will need a wood floor. Wood liner refers to the plywood on the walls mentioned earlier. Scuff lining refers to the usually twelve inch high rub liner on the walls, just above the floor, they are metal or plastic, again this is personal preference. Etrack, logistic posts, logistic seams, refer to the slots in the sidewalls for attaching logistic bars or logistic straps, for securing the load. The logistic posts will give you more strength than the e track that is usually pop riveted to the wall posts, however, the etrac has a slot every couple of inches, whereas the logistic posts have the slots in each post and depends on the trailer spec, but usually about twenty four inches post to post.
Acid washed just refers to the acid used when they wash a trailer, known for getting the dirt off and leaving a shiny aluminum clean look. Roll up doors are well suited for city type work where you may open the door fifty or so times a day, and they are pretty much a one hand door to raise, also you can usually back right in to the dock and open the door from inside the building. Rollup doors are not known for keeping the freight dry, hence you see the plastic liners hanging out of the back of the LTL trailers as they go down the road.
If you are going to buy a used dry van, reefer, or flat, the first thing to inspect is the fifthwheel bolster plate, go to the side of the trailer and sight under the trailer where the tractor fifthwheel attaches, sight across to the other side, and make sure that the plate is FLAT, not bowed upwards, this would indicate a structural problem. The second thing to check is walk back to the area behind the fifthwheel plate and sight across, looking again for straight looking structure, then start with the front crossmember of the floor, and work your way to the rear of the trailer sighting across each crossmember as you go, ALL crossmembers should be straight and not bowing downward in the center of the trailer, this indicates the value of the trailer, bowed crossmembers would need to be replaced, as the coarse of time goes they will gradually bow downward, at ten years old they pretty much would need replaced. A lot of carriers buy the standard economy trailer, and then haul a lot of paper, (BIG rolls of paper sometimes weighing over five thousand pounds, so you would add the fifteen thousand pound forklift, and you have twenty thousand pounds going in and out of the trailer, with that weight mainly on the front wheels of the forklift, causing the floor crossmembers to collapse before they should). Other carriers use their head and order a paper spec trailer, which has the floor crossmembers at eight inches spacing, rather than the normal twelve inches. The wall posts on a paper spec trailer usually have three posts every four feet as opposed to the normal two per four feet.
Check for cracks also around the landing gear mounting aprons, and check for cracks where the crossmembers are welded to the tandem sliding rails. Check the structure holding the ICC bumper, and then go inside the trailer and walking all around, inspect for cracks or holes in roof, sometimes you can see light coming through while you are standing in a particular place, but if you move a couple of feet it might not show, so do this on a sunny day. Also check the nose rail at the top front as well as the top front corners to check for collision damage, then take a ladder and check the outer appearance of the roof and top rails as well. Sight down the wall also, some times a cheap (going to the auction type) repair job will show up when you do this.
It will usually take you an hour to look one over, don't be rushed, I usually tell the salesman that I will be back in after I look it over, so that I can take my time and not feel rushed. It used to be the rule of thumb that the standard trailer would last ten years. There are a LOT of shippers that will NOT load a trailer older than ten years, so let this guide you in pricing. If you have any more questions just p.m. me. Hope this helps.Last edited: Aug 17, 2012
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What brand of trailer are you currently using ? , does it do the job , if so start out by looking at that make / model with maybe a few upgrades that it might not have.
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Wow Taildragon, I don't think there is anything that anyone else could add to that book, except for suspension related stuff. I learned quite a bit from that.
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I have an 09 Great Dane SSL, I'm looking for a Wabash Duraplate.
I have nothing bad to say Great Dane other than when these trailers break, they break. Blew an inside tire lost 1 bag, and a few airlines. My tandem locker took a hit has well. Talk about almost losing your tandems. -
Thanks alot TailDragon, because of guys like you helping others learn ,us young owner operators can learn and survive in this industry. keep the great work
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So one last questions was from your perspective ,what kind of lining is better, I see most of them have plywood lining by looking at truck paper. Which inside lining would have more option for freight such as in the dry freight market.
I'm assuming any type of interior lining works , only thing is that if i need to haul dry food then plywood/wood lining might not work as you had mentioned.
"A food grade trailer is generally considered to be a trailer that does not have plywood sidewall liners"
thanks.banyarmyint Thanks this. -
Mine is plain hardwood... Not to heavy, I have a plywood roof. Sure its covered by a sheet of thin metal.
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Hopefully it is
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I know, would SUCK BIG TIME if my wood rotted out thanks to water.
HEY, PG-13! Get your head out of the gutter
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hi,
I looked at a trailer today and liked it. It was from owner operator and met all the above things said by taildragon. It seems like a good deal as well when i looked at similar year model trailer on truckpaper and other.
My only concern was that it has patch in the roof. The guy said it's done professionaly but doesn't have any recipt since he said he lost it in the paperwork long time ago. It's about 8 inches as you can see in the below pictures.
-What you guys think,,, will it leak when it rains or how can i determine if this is okay and normal for a patch in the roof.
Pictures This is the bottom and top view of the roof.
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