29 ltd swr peggin out in wrong direction?????

Discussion in 'CB Radio Forum' started by duckco, Aug 17, 2012.

  1. duckco

    duckco Bobtail Member

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    Alright here are the pics handlebar i got to the dock and tried everything you and others told me with no luck see if u can make any since again thank you for your time.
     

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  3. duckco

    duckco Bobtail Member

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    They had rubber washers on the bolts holding my tool box down so i took those off wrapped a ground wire around the mount and then ran it to a bolt on the frame and nothing at all same thing going on. While trying this new set up i notice on my radio that if i switched to the top swr switch my swr went down to 2.9 and on cal 3.0 but as soon as i switched back to swr it pegged out again also noticed my light indicator when i key up was really low.
     
  4. keepntruckin

    keepntruckin Light Load Member

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    I run a 4300/300 connex and a little over 50' of braided copper wire for ground, from antenna mount to truck frame and from radio to truck frame,, annoying sometimes cause I can pick up people sometimes over 50 miles ahead.
     
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  5. Numb

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    needs to be low in cal , position only. don't worry about the reading in the other positions.
    when switch is in S/RF , it reads incoming signals.
     
  6. mike5511

    mike5511 Road Train Member

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    I didn't read all the posts real close. But, for what it's worth (FWIW) I have never been able to get a good SWR reading when mounting an antenna to a tool box!
     
  7. handlebar

    handlebar Heavy Load Member

    I just now had a chance to look at pics and re-read your test procedure, Duck. I think you said you checked SWR with the switch at the bottom and the *top*.
    The procedure is thusly: Set the switch to the bottom, or CAL position, hold the PTT switch, and turn the Calibrate knob (over on the right) until the needle rests on the "cal" mark. Then. without changing anything else, flip the SWR switch to the *middle* position, marked SWR, and read it. As Numb started to mention above, the very top position is where the switch typically sits during day-to-day ops, where it will show incoming signal strength on receive, and relative output power on transmit. It looks like he edited partway through, though, and missed the second step. If you never switch from "calibrate", you'll never let the meter calculate what's being reflected.
    If you've got the toolbox and mount grounded, let's try that and check before changing anything else. At least that's what I'd do.
    73,
    Handlebar
    p.s. And don't expect the world with being mounted to the toolbox, as was just mentioned, too. But at some point, when I can't get stuff perfect, I just kick the spool of wire off the roof, plug the loose end into my tuner, and get on the air.
     
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  8. duckco

    duckco Bobtail Member

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    Thanks everyone for your replies. Handlebar i did the procedure as shown to me in my book start with 20 then i did 40 and 1 for height of antenna. First step i put it on 20 had the switch set to CAL keyed up and i cant even get the needle on the CAL arrow i have the CAL knob turned all the way clock wise no more to turn, while still holding the mic keyed up i switched to the swr in the middle and it just pegged out again. I also ran a pretty thick wire from the antenna mount to my bare metal goose neck hitch so i no for sure there i would have a good ground.
     
  9. M818

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    how strange. What conditions could cause the meter to read more than at the CAL mark?

    One note: If the SWR is wrong, and the S/RF function of the meter is selected, the RF output can either read too high or too low. Either way. But you say you have it in the CAL or SWR positions, not the S/RF position.

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    OK, so to recap, you put the meter switch to CAL, key it, and set the pointer to the CAL arrow. Then put the switch to SWR and it increases past that?

    Under no circumstances should that happen unless:
    1: the meter is bad/misadjusted (has anyone messed around inside the radio, is this adjustable?)
    2: is connected backwards (unlikely because it is built in, but an external meter can do this).
    3: what else?

    This is very weird. Try an external meter and check it against your CB's meter function. Just to be sure it's working right.

    About that tool box, you said it had rubber strips, but you added a wire. OK, well it might be best to check and make sure that is really a good solid connection to the bed or goodeneck. It's best to put one on each side as well but should not be absolutely necessary. Is the bed grounded well to the frame? Ought to be a couple straps underneath. Is the antenna bracket to the lid or body of the tool box. RF should not have to pass through a hinge.

    The use of a wire all the way from a toolbox mount to a gooseneck asembly is a quite long ground wire. It's possibly a source of more trouble. RF ground has to be a short one.
     
  10. duckco

    duckco Bobtail Member

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    I set to 20 i key up mic while on switch is on CAL i adjust with the CAL knob very last one once that is set i while still holding the mic keyed up i switch to the center which is swr with out playing with anything except to switch from CAL to swr in the center and it pegs out hell i cant even get the meter to get to CAL when its i first have it on CAL switch. I have the tool box bolted down to the bed of my truck i had rubber washers but took those out so two bolts for each side the antenna mount is bolted to the body of the box not the lid and for shat and giggles i ran another ground witch is a pretty thick wire from the antenna mount to the gooseneck hitch which is only a ft and half long so the ground wire is not the issue. I have not tried a swr meter box yet im still on the boat but when i come to my dock time to time i go out to my truck and work on the things people suggest .
     
  11. duckco

    duckco Bobtail Member

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    The hole set up from the radio to the antenna is brand new. The radio has never been open and mess with
     
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