if you have your CDL why are you looking for work?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by nicholas_jordan, Sep 7, 2012.

  1. nicholas_jordan

    nicholas_jordan Medium Load Member

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    My talent agent is K-Hall in Austin, same screen name ......

    been working Trans/Vac Truck Driver at Key Energy Services - Field Operations ...... they have 39 listings .......



    see the yellow hard hat & blue shirt, it's khaki-green
     
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  3. D_Havens

    D_Havens Light Load Member

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    DOT 49 CFR part 40 does not relate to filling out an application for employment at all. Part 40 is DOT Procedures for Transportation Workplace Drug and Alcohol Testing Programs. Which has nothing to do with an initial application for employment.

    I can't speak for other companies, but ALL applications which are completed for our company are screened by humans, not some machine that spits out "qualified" candidates.


    We don't discredit experience at all, even if it was 20 years ago, if you have verifiable Class A CDL experience in a DOT regulated CMV, with a manual transmission, then it counts.


    I have heard of a lot of companies that require "experience" be within the last "XX" Months. Which I don't like or agree with. It's like riding a bicycle, you might get a little rusty, but the skill never goes away.
     
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  4. nicholas_jordan

    nicholas_jordan Medium Load Member

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    That was just a generalized remark, for whomever might be reading the Thread as I am OP on the Thread and just thought it productive though clearly I got the wrong Cite ~ since you do this "every day" or some version thereof pls correct me as what I was attempting to state translates thus: "These DOT Regulated driver applications, at least the ones I have seen, often run 17 pages thus take significant investment of time and attention to detail." => with the implication being the time issue - which is a central issue in the discussion - the intent there to make a subtle swipe that anyone can see suggesting that the reason for if you have your CDL why are you looking for work? is that one spends all one's time filling "paperwork" -{ any version of wording }- and thus when someone goes to a bloated website that runs poorly and does not achieve Sarbanes-Oxley level of controls on the information then we have valid basis for our discussion running on at length [pm me if you need that translated]

    Are those screenings conducted at the security level of biometric controls? And are those records enciphered? I will skip some deeper details as you will not know what MD-5 is but suffice it to say when Comptroller's Office busts security then I may assume any company also conducts operations in a similar manner. I am working your response here as generalized conceptional theorization across the issue broadly,.....it gets too deep in technical very fast but what I see does not make sense so if you can speak for the industry in a broad, generalized observation how is it that multiple installations across several states fielding a candidate pool running in the hundreds or thousands looking at perhaps a hundred jobs can be serviced by a system that relies on what you know as Office software..?

    Point in Case is me doing the testing at TX/DPS ~ the bench clerk(s) had to fax documents - that is a crude system to say the least & will never network at the rate of a freight line's routing system. Those are not especially hard to write in code and keep human-intervention at control points. HR is in fact a routing system of some kind.


    what I have was rather wildcat and does not fit the constraint

    I agree.

    I note for your use & disposal as you wish that I have - for the purpose of the discussion here - deep knowledge on how a better system could be effected but am frustrated, perhaps deeply ...... when virtually every operation ^^DEMANDS^^ one go "online" to conduct (what amounts to) pre-screening [ actually much of the process - about up to showing up at training ] then have to work one's way through contorted "online" issues that make the process to be a minor form of cyber-warfare ...... avg joe applicant is somebody's sucker in that operational domain

    which is what bothers me at a deeper level in this conversation
     
  5. DrivingForceBehindYou

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    An OTR driver covers up to 150000 miles per year. Given 3 cpm raise would mean extra 4500, would you leave it on the table?
     
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  6. DrivingForceBehindYou

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    ... a pulse and an acceptable driving record. It is not the same, also they get pickier from day-to-day. But quite a few would definitely disregard PSP ,DAC BS
     
  7. nicholas_jordan

    nicholas_jordan Medium Load Member

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    yes, but finding those has proven to be a "resource-intensive" issue, even right this moment I have Eagle Ford Shale Jobs open, it lists

    • Statoil
    • BHP Billiton
    • EP Energy
    • Eaton
    • Hess

    BHP Billiton we take for a workup ~ two to three days ago I discovered while doing searches that BHP Billiton bought petrohawk & chesapeake .... which in the midst of innocents "leaves one wondering" when job-searches go to financial news for Trinidad & Tobago - it is too obvious to me why

    become almost pure gravy for "another kind of hawk" feeding on a "bone-us" plan but it does not dumbfounds me being on the job-search side, in only a matter of ten minutes and ten links one can find some interesting vacation spots from which potentially billions lure people who can read

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    thence finding yards where application effort yields operations managers who can disregard bs on PSP / DAC that was rather obviously written by SWH types who are not accomplished at yard-goat driving skills becomes a matter of negotiating a heavily biased "job-screen" that demands recital of socialist literature, then pitches the work in the electronic equivalent of five-foot stack of papers ..... it is no wonder to me why some poster would post a reply to a thread: "if you have your CDL why are you looking for work?" but when one seeks to avoid that question trying to get food from an eleemosynary (charity / charitable) gathering then the idea that one can find companies that will hire on a pulse and an acceptable driving record reduces to drive around and look for work

    :biggrin_25511:

    that's great if you have a job already and can buy gas
     
  8. Chinatown

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    Some unemployed CDL holders put too many restrictions on themselves. To get started or reentrer the driving field, you must be flexible in the beginning. Save time by beginning with the online application process before you waste gas and phone bills on cold calls & walking into trucking company offices. Online applications are free and can be done in your pajamas with a good cup of hot coffee, in your own home. Google : truck driver jobs
     
  9. truckie

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    Well the reason I'm looking for work is I will have to move from sunny hawaii to the cold winters in the mainland to get work I want
    So I'm now looking online to see if I can get picked up by some company to run OTR Flatbed stuff
    I'm looking at moving back to my home town are which is in the TX panhandle
    Got a few companies in mind
    One is Lone Star & their flatbed division
    Another one is a small company located closer to where I want to move to & that company is Koyote Trucking out of Pampa, Texas
    3 years off with no work has me looking to move back even if I hate the cold winters
    Not much OTR work in hawaii
    Maybe some day when they figure out how to make a highway system that connects all the island ?:biggrin_25519:
     
  10. nicholas_jordan

    nicholas_jordan Medium Load Member

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    [video=youtube_share;VfEftIiICYM]http://youtu.be/VfEftIiICYM[/video]

    actually most applicants are not accomplished at "online" and just drive to the yards looking for work, of recent I have begun to wonder what it looks like if one were standing there as a neutral observer & have "suppport" tell them to "apply online"

    For what it is worth since I am OP what you say makes tremendous sense and as well I advise job-seekers to do exactly that - T.Y.

    very productive - what you say in the context of the thread - as the original purpose of (discussion here) "If you have your CDL why are you looking for work?" is served well by the juxtaposition of a six trillion USD operation vis-a-vis -{example}- Kenedy / Karnes City ..... we have Karnes County Judge Barbara Shaw instructing those present that county level operations has no budgetary authority to collect funds to build roads -- it will be too much of a jump for me to skip the intervening logic as we already have at least Mr. Havens pondering "I really struggle to understand your meaning" so tell me Mr. Havens and anyone else with an interest in finding work who would go onto a thread with this title why does the Texas Rail Road Comission not do Rail Road ....? Then, after you have worked on that "awhile" compare your remark here: "a shortage of 175k qualified truck drivers" to where I am going with the thread by examining how many of the listing(s) on the TX/RRC show mail to be returned to listed office address ....... we - as drivers - can get a T.W.I.C. & (for the work in my area of interest) present that card and it better match up .....

    Maybe some day when they figure out how to make an application system that connects all the T.W.I.C. identities to historical driving profiles ~ that would be browsable and is not at all hard to do in computer work - that is exactly what the work is good for ..... actually 175,000 is probably inflated, I suggest that in a statistical valid sample it is probably 17,000 "drivers looking for work" & the "trick" -{operational challenge}- inter~alia is to have them wear F.R. pajamas while doing the search ..... in case they get really heated in frustration :biggrin_25523:
     
  11. tsdean

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    I went to school passed all there equirements and got my cdl's only i did not get to go with the trainer to finish my training because i needed to come home to take care of a problem at home my wife was going to get thrown out of our home, i tired to get the company to help me by letting me come home and take care of this problem but they didnt want to work with me and so i left the school on my own and now i am having trouble finding a job driving because i do not the road training these companys want any ideas
     
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