Maxxforce 13

Just wait till these suckers are 4-5 years old and nothing wants to come apart anyway. We are seeing engines less that a year old with completely seized fasteners as if the engine was 10 years old.

 

simply put not fun to work on a simple t time adjustment should cover most your time, hpcacs are a thing of the past on the bigbores but the bring them into the 9 and 10s. 2010s are way way beter to work on cac system is much simpler. you set these right and they run. weve pushed through over 500 of these engines in the last 4 months.

 

seen the new cat 15 maxxforce engine in the prostar plus on youtube, gee only seen about 8 inchs of the engine, the rest was in the cab, i guess its going to be a throw away truck when you get 400,000 miles on it, cascadia looks to be the same, but paccar you can get to the motor [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht3ppr_WWZU[/ame]

 

I'm sorry, but I'm still not convinced there is an engine in there. I see an alternator and some tubes but no engine! Seriously though, what a nightmare to work on! Yikes!

 

yeah, really it is MAN D28 engine, but w/o SCR as I can see. and as I can see there is like in Europe alternator, with brushes.

 

http://www.man.com.au/manau/assets/pdf/specs/engines/MAN Euro 3 480 - 530 HP Engines.pdf

 

My company has experienced a rash of major problems with the Maxxforce. We had high hopes of avoiding SCR so the Maxxforce was the only choice. We have one Cat and one Cummins Prostars which seem to be fine. Two out of four of the 2011 Prostars with the Maxxforce have been trouble.

However a 2009 Maxxforce 13 totally blew up with a 175,000 miles. International did replace the engine under warranty but was down for about 2 weeks. Two of the 2011 Prostars have been plagued with check engine lights and plugged EGRs and EGR coolers. One is on the third EGR in 85000 miles. It also just had the engine wiring harness replaced. A 2010 Maxxforce cracked a head and burned out an exhaust valve with in 140,000 miles. This truck is down for 2 weeks for that repair. The Maxxforce's also plug up between the radiators causing the engine to run hot and lose power. A big concern is any deer hit will cause substainal damage to the massive radiator/charge cooler package.

We also run Volvos and Macks which have not been free of problems. Once fixed they have fixed we did not experienced the same problems. The International part availablity and tech support is no comparison to Volvo. In many cases it has taken days to get parts from International. Also International's dealer network has a limited number of Maxxforce Techs which makes it hard to get fixed on the road.

It is pretty clear from the number of 2011 Prostars on the Truckpaper International is taking back a large number of trucks that customers are clearly not happy with the down time, performance and fuel mileage. I have heard from others that they will replace 2011's with 2012's if the customer is not happy. I understand International is trying to do the right thing to keep their customers happy but these kinds of problems are very costly to the end user and really question purchasing any more Maxxforce engines given the problems. Our 2008 Volvo with a D12 engine with over 400,000 miles is the most reliable truck in the fleet along with being the oldest and with the most miles.

Sure hope International can finally resolve the issues. The drivers love these trucks because they are quiet and ride well. The 475 hp Maxxforce pulls great when it runs correctly.

 

European (German/Austrian) over engineering at its best. By the way if you haven't heard Navistar is bringing back Cummins.

 

Yep, and say good-bye to the Maxxforce 15.

 

Really? Are they stopping production on it?