Question about "Log book" ticket in Calif.?

this is true

once, i had started driving at 2300hrs, and at 9am a DOT wanted to cite me for not keeping my logbook current because i had not started a new log for that day

i quickly replied to him, it is current to my last change of duty status

he gave me my logbook and wished me a good day

 

I've had a bit of experience with Cali log book tickets.

My usual approach is to wait until the last day to respond, show up at the clerk's window, plead not guilty and ask for a court date as far off in the future as possible.

Best case scenario, they've had 7 or 8 months to screw up or lose your paperwork/computer record, or the officer doesn't appear to testify against you.


Worst case scenario, you change your plea to Guilty and ask that you be fined for court costs only, due to financial hardship. The judge may levy a fine that's as little as one-third the bail amount.

IME, the judges tend to get pizzed when a defendant tries to explain their way out of the ticket when they don't have a leg to stand on, they are appreciative when you don't waste their time.

 

Anytime you feel you have been unjustly given a ticket by law enforcement it is your DUTY as an American Citizen to go to court and defend yourself. Paying a ticket, just because it is easier means you are wasting the lives of everyone who has ever stood up and defended your right to a fair and just trial. You might lose but the fight is worth it. Look at this thread and see the confusion we are having. Make the system explain itself in clear and understandable language. What did you do wrong? How can we avoid making the same mistake? Why were you singled out? And why are there so many public servants who think they are gods?

Go to court plead not guilty. If you are found guilty, post and appeal bond. That way the cost for the state go up and usually (over 89% of the time) the state will just drop the case and your appeal bond will be returned to you.

I fought in Vietnam. My sons both fought in the Gulf. My grandfather did WW2. I have the right to play the guilt card and ask you to fight for me in the California Court system.

 

Waving dead soldiers around in a discussion about a simple log book fine is in my opinion just pathetic.

 

fozzy, he may have shot the flies with a shotgun, but he does have a point

the reason so many government abuses occur is because we lay down and accept it

standing up for your rights may not be convenient, or may even be costly, but as we like to say, Freedom aint free

 

As most of you know, we do not know each other. We only type back and forth while we try to make a living. We bring different backgrounds to the discussions and have different opinions on things. We are different.

I took sometime after I read the above quote. It is his or her opinion. As such, I defend his right to offer it. I feel he is wrong and I therefore wish to explain why.

Our soldiers, of which I have explained, I was one, risk their lives for our freedoms. All of our freedoms. Not just the big ones but the little ones as well. If we give up the or "little rights", where then do we draw the line.

We have all heard the phrase you have to pick your battles. I believe the battles you pick should be the ones you can fight. Those are really the little ones. I never plead guilty in court. Never. I go and let them prove speeding tickets. I then appeal the ticket. I drive the cost up and they drop the case. I do that because I oppose the system of taxing folks without representation. The town of Claycomo, Missouri is a speed trap. Northmoor is one also. Sugar Creek another. These towns invested in unmanned cameras to photograph cars driving on the highways and ticket them by mail. None of the three towns have any streets or driveways that connect directly to those highways. The highways pass over their towns. They use them just as a tax. I have never gotten a ticket from them but if I did, I would show up and drive the cost up. I think they are bullies.

The California log book violation struck me as being from a bully. I do not put up with bullies. I fight the first fight that I see and refuse to wait for the fight to get bigger. World War 2 was a result of the world letting Hitler get away with doing things that they should have opposed. He got power because he was allowed to get it. We have let the government grow out of control. I believe that is going to cost us all. So I fight.

You might find me Pathetic, but I know that if you are ever in trouble all you have to do is let me know and I would be there for you.

 

Back when I first started driving truck, I was pulled over by CHP and got a ticket for logbook, speeding (63 mph) and cruising along in the hammer lane. Got a lawyer. My trial date ended up being the 2nd day of the L.A. riots. The arresting officer was not available to appear in court. Case dismissed. Where was I at on my court date, driving around the projects in Chicago getting funny looks from people.

 

Lets talk tickets , tell me what you have gotten and for what.
Cost?
easy one to get , NOT speeding !
Thanks

 

Just in case you want a visual on that 100 mile air radius.