I have been running up and down I-5 from WA - OR - CA. I know where all the weigh stations are and therefore can manage my time effectively; meaning I know from experience how long it should take me from the time i past the first scale to the time i reach the next scale and from there to the next one and so forth. Even though the speed is generally around 60 I find myself running ahead of time so I'll pull over to make up the difference without logging it. Or if I am running behind, I can pull over and log a break. I know this is illegal and not saying its right or wrong...
my question is this, my company wants to extend their service are to like TX, OK, KS, etc...I have never done those routes and was wondering how to approach this.
I try to follow the speed limit and sometimes i does go over. what's the best way to find out where all the scales are on the route, and how far apart they are and how long it should take me to reach those, especially if I don't have access to internet at the time?
are there gps units out there that will tell you where the scale houses are on your route you can see before you leave? How do you guys do this? Also, since this is new terrain, how do find out where my 11 hrs are up? like example if I leave from seattle going to TX, what city should I hit my 11hr driving and take my 10 hour?
Some guys have been doing this for a long time and can take a truck anywhere from anywhere and not stress the book at all...I am not one...
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Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by harmin5288, Oct 9, 2012.
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Log legal and with safe equipment. its not that hard driver.
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well, I am finding it difficult....thats why i am asking...you didn't even answer the question. I get it: keep away from dirty logs. what i would like to know is how to stay legal. My idea to stay legal is to know where the scales are and to drive accordingly. If this is wrong please advise. But my main question is how to know where the scales are while you are on the road. no internet access and how to plan your route? like in depth what to plan for and how to allocate your time.
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I agree. Run an log legal. However, one question was for GPS that shows weigh stations along route. MS Streets and Trips 2013 ($69) with the mega POI file (free download, google it) has all the weigh stations and almost all the truck stops. I use it for easy trip planning.
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Actually, he did answer it properly. Don't exceed the posted speed limits and you won't have to stress about being ahead of your logbook. Been doing this for many, many years and it hasn't failed me yet.BigBadBill, Container Hauler, harmin5288 and 1 other person Thank this.
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".... I know this is illegal " Dont get into that mess. Just go the speed limit (yes, the spirit of the law will let ya go a bit faster) and you will never need to worry about scale houses. im not harping on ya-but sometimes we tend to stray (or have been taught wrong/bad ideas). just remember, in the end that cdl is your life blood-and if found to be in a violation no comapny will back you up. In other words protect yourself
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I still run loose leaf paper.......legal or not, it's never failed me. The log book is easy if you manage it as you go and not try to have to manage multiples. I know, "your gonna get in trouble....yadda yadda"
DOT officials have plenty of clowns rolling across their scales that scream...."I'm an idiot, inspect me" or their equipment, appearance, or attitude beg the same. If your reasonable, appear to be within the law on paper then you should be good.
There's always a chance to run across that one inspector I know.....but if you do, chances are legal or not if the want yin they will have you........the thing is....make them not want you.
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Buy a Rand McNally Motor Carrier Atlas and it shows you where the scales are at. You don't know if you will have backups and slow downs, and the truck stops that are closer to the big cities are normally full. Some scales are not even open. So what happens is you drive 10 hours and now you know there is only 1 hour left so you can look in your motor carrier atlas to find if there are rest area's in that last 60 miles and sometimes some of those are full also.
Also some states like Texas will pull you over to check your log book even when you are not doing anything illegal and there's no scale around. Also the points you get for falsifying log book will add up quickly and you will not be able to use your license. Some companies wont even touch you after you get you license back. Also lawyers love you guys. They can pin point where you are with your cell phone if you are involved in an accident.
Yes some of us have logged illegal. Me I would run 200,000 miles a year by logging illegal. I'm just thankful I never got busted. I have been shut down in scales because my creative writing wasn't good enough. Back then you got a slap on the risk and small fine. Now its just not worth it. Even now on E logs if I'm in a big traffic jam I'll log off duty if its not moving. But doing 4 hours over my 11, and tearing up log sheets for a 34 hr restart. The few pennies just not worth it anymore. Just know you have been warned my friend. Hope you make good choices.Last edited: Oct 9, 2012
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The atlas tells you where scales are, pretty simple they have red dots.
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I quit stressing when I was put on ELogs.
I used to cheat, nothing like the Old Timers did of course.Still it was kind of stressfull having to cross a scale.
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