Please help with this split break problem

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by musicgal, Oct 9, 2012.

  1. Jb17

    Jb17 Bobtail Member

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    Yeah you can any 8 hr up to 10 continuous sleeper is excluded from your 14. The problem this guy has is he is out of is 14. Your 14 will move up on a split, but not until you finish the last of the two splits, then it will begin where you ended the first of the two breaks.

    I don't see the problem on making this load though, all you have to do is average 45 mph, and if you don't mess around for more than a hour out of your day the way I have it figured you will have your next 10 hr break done by the time you are unloaded in north Carolina.
     
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  3. Jb17

    Jb17 Bobtail Member

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    Another point you may want to make to your dispatcher is you don't get your full 11 back after you finish a split. This example is assuming you have the on duty hours to go with drive hours. Say you drive 5 hrs sleeper 8 now you can drive 6 then say you go 2 hrs off duty come back, your fourteen moves to where you finished that first 8 hr break, but you can only drive 5 hrs until you would have to do another break of some kind, start another split what ever.
     
  4. Dinomite

    Dinomite Road Train Member

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    I do splits all the time. Love them. It gives you that extra 2 hours just in case you get sleepy down the road and you have nothing to worry about. So if instead you take the full 10 and drive 6 hours and need a power nap now you are going to be even later. So you utilize the time you lost instead of letting it go all down the drain. If you are pulling a refer you should get use to this sense lots of customers like to take their time getting you loaded and unloaded. Good day.
     
  5. passion4polishing

    passion4polishing Road Train Member

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    something you guys might be missing-

    If only 7 hours were driven in 14, it's likely there is 2 hours consecutive off duty in there (Shipper perhaps). If there is, 8 hr line 2 will reset the clocks to start at the end of the most recent 2 hours consecutive line 1/2(and pause 14 through the 8hr). If there isn't 2 hours consecutive than 8 hr line 2 and you'll still be out of hours.

    Splits are complicated, and most starter companies don't teach their drivers how to use them (mine included). This just makes things worse, because I see a lot of wrong information about them here. Even from experienced drivers.
     
  6. Dinomite

    Dinomite Road Train Member

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    I can't them them on paper but my e-log does it just fine.
     
  7. passion4polishing

    passion4polishing Road Train Member

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    If you cant use them on paper, how do you know how many hours you will have after that 8 hour nap? If it's tight enough to need one, I'd want to know it was going to work before I went to sleep saying I'd make it on time. For what its worth, I wasn't referring to you when I said people give bad information, your scenario above works just fine.
     
  8. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    Time for a refresher! :)

     
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  9. passion4polishing

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    395.1

    (C) Calculation of the 14-hour period in §395.3(a)(2) includes all time except any sleeper-berth period of at least 8 but less than 10 consecutive hours and up to 2 hours riding in the passenger seat of a property-carrying vehicle moving on the highway immediately before or after a period of at least 8 but less than 10 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth; compliance must be re-calculated from the end of the first of the two periods used to comply with the requirements of paragraph (g)(1)(ii)(A) of this section.

    for a refresher
     
  10. azcardnlz

    azcardnlz Medium Load Member

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    There's plenty of wrong information right here on this thread...lol.
     
  11. musicgal

    musicgal Road Train Member

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    Got 6hrs sleep and wake up to all this...LOL....Thanks for all the help.

    I can't stay at the customer tonight so I have to stop about 25 miles out and I have to be there 12.5 hrs from now....can't leave for another hour, so I'm going to be pushing hard and I know it's going to take all that I have to get that 475 miles going through the mountains of WV and V with almost 80K.

    Had a load the other day going from Houston to Ft. Smith...had 9.5 hrs to go almost 500 miles, told dispatcher I probably wouldn't make it since I had to go up 71, and I ran out of time 65 miles south of Ft. Smith.
     
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