So theoretically.....

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by gravdigr, Dec 8, 2012.

  1. snowman01

    snowman01 Road Train Member

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    If the load is overweight then they can not force him to move it. I would take the load to the nearest cat scale and keep a copy. Return it to the yard for a re work. Do this a couple of times and it will stop. If they retaliate by firing you then you have a nice court case.
     
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  3. gravdigr

    gravdigr Road Train Member

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    Funny considering we were hauling.....chicken lol

    ok so I'm gonna drop the whole theoretical bs lol. I'm not afraid of hard work, I broke down all the pallets, moved, sorted, and stacked 300+ 50lb boxes of product yesterday (not counting the ful pallet deliveries to loading docks). But as someone mentioned if a drunk driver hits me at 4am after I have been running 24 hours I'm screwed and they won't use lube.

    I had no idea these hauls would be like this, first time running reefer delivering to retail. Took me a while to get used to just walking onto the dock, opening the door and setting the docking plate then unloading my truck without having to check in somewhere. Doing dry van usually I wasn't even allowed on the dock.

    There is no way these are team loads, they are delivered in daycabs. The guy teaching me the route usually runs it himself but he got nerve damage in his arm and can't drive or lift. He's a good guy but very old school. He's my age but has been driving truck in one form or another since he was 16.

    I dunno I guess I'll talk to them and see how it goes, but my goal with a local job was to be home more. I don't need to make $1,000/wk, just enough scratch for some spending money is fine. I will say this, those truck can move lol.
     
  4. gravdigr

    gravdigr Road Train Member

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    Oh, and fudging the book a little is one thing, but what we did was throwing the book right out the window and writing total fiction lol.

    Funny side story, my fiancee knows the hours of service rules. The first night when I was gone for 18 hours she thought I was cheating on her after work because I can't work more than 14 hours, so where was I the other 4 hours.
     
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  5. brsims

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    Gravdigr, welcome to the wonderful world of running for a smaller, PA based outfit. It seems Imler is just like every other smaller company I've dealt with here in PA that honestly believes us drivers are freakin' robots that shut down everytime the truck does, regardless of what we are actually doing at the time (fueling, loading/unloading, whatever).

    Plus, two drivers on the truck means two logbooks, see? That's all you need, doncha know?

    Discuss, learn if this is the standard and if so bail!

    Also, contact these guys http://www.ronaldgrossinc.com/pages/history.asp. Steel haulers out of western PA. Equipment is somewhat older, but every driver I've talked to has been very happy, company owner is very involved in day-to-day operations. I've tried a couple of times to get in, but my lack of recent experience blocks the insurance. Give'em a call, ask to talk to Mr. Gross. See what transpires.
     
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    Must, not all, don't push their drivers that hard.
     
  8. snowman01

    snowman01 Road Train Member

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    We all fudge at one time or another. How many drivers ran out of hours 15 min or 1/2hr from the house and went in instead of spending the night in the truck? However you are right, there is fudging to make it fit and outright foolishness. I will fudge my 11hrs driving to make it fit into my 14 within reason but will not extend my 14 unless I run out on the way home and am not that far from it.
     
  9. Cat sdp

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    Is it possible the first run could have been done in 15 hours? Even with a guy to show you around , it must of taken you longer than one of their "heavy hitters."

    There is no excuse for sending you back out with no 10 hour break .

    The over weight thing is a push. Was it axle or gross. And after the first stop were you ok etc. How many scales on your route ? Probably none.

    What did your co- worker that was with you say about the run.
     
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  10. tinytim

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    Theoretically this driver should get his 50-60 hours in pretty quickly and have 3 or 4 days off a week.

    Would take more than $1000 a week to get me to run like that. Sounds like chicken feed considering the risks and the toll on your body.
     
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    even better is what would they say if TSHTF, or under oath

    any prob pops up and bottom line is for the person driving

    Co could say ~ "we had no idea"
     
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