What is the attraction with peterbilts

DEF tank location is determined by the specified order. If you spex it on left side, Pete puts is on left. Order it on the right, and it is on the right. Not a "quality" issue, but rather a "spec" issue............

 

Yep, my boss has 6 brand new 2013 388's and the DEF tanks are all on the driver's side

 

So who ordered the stock trucks on the dealers yard ?

 

An idiot apparently

 

I have an '09...Pre DEF.....So that's not an issue.....The body paint OTOH......Sucks!!!!!!!!!!!

Those of us who buy these rigs new basically bought a 4 bedroom house.....That is....A brand new rig costs as much as a friggin' house....You'd think PACCAR would do a better job with the body paint!!!!

 

Myself I like KW W900's and T800's and most of your Pete 379's, 378's, and 359's. Also drove a Mack CH600 I really liked a lot. But there's just something special about a big square Pete with a straight piped Cat, all light up with l.e.d. chicken lights having 18 gears to play with. Just somethin I like about em I guess. FWIW

 

True. In your case you needed a specific cheap throwaway truck. Low investment,cheap maintenance. Driver turnover still isnt terrible on regional jobs no matter what the trucks it seems. Typically bevause they end up backed into the smallest corners and love their short manueverable trucks.

KW seems like they will build a truck to meet any of your needs but they portray those trucks as heavy haul off road. They must be less flexible on LTL trucks.

Mack used to be the same way but has changed a lot.

Its true about USA quality versus other areas. For the most part made in Mexico is as good as or better than Made in USA by Union. Many of the non-union jobs employ hispanic laborers anyways thus their quality is good too.

I work with many of them on our farm and can say there are plenty of them who dont care, however they get replaced by ones who do care. Thats the thing with them versus union americans. If they are lazy or dont want to work somebody else takes their job immediatly. Its pretty amazing watching them work, they dont play politics and dont take "sick" days. If one cant make it they find someone to cover their shift. We rarely have to get involved. That said though. They generally are a/b people meaning if one is good at milking cows they wont be good at running machinery anr vise versa. However they do specialize very well and work very hard. Quality bonuses actually mean something to them and they strive to achieve them versus the American worker who just expects a bonus for nothing.

We try to hire americans from time to time but it just doesnt work out ever.

Ive noticed the Internationals tend to go very cheap. Even the 9900s and such. Id never buy one with they're newer motors but i dont think theyre the worst trucks for what you pay.

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Just so were clear. Im not disagreeing with you. What I meant by throwaway truck was a truck that has no value once you were done. Wouldnt matter the brand. Nobody would give you much for them either way. Sure if it said pete or kw somebody who only cared about brand maybe wouldve given you a little more but i doubt it wouldve even come close to offsetting the upfront costs.

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