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Discussion in 'Freightliner Forum' started by red semi, Dec 22, 2012.

  1. red semi

    red semi Bobtail Member

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    is it possible to add resistance to TRS signal to alter timing on series-60 Looking to advance timing without laptop on 2004 epa 515hp egr engine from lousy 13 degree btc to the normal ( pre- egr) 15 degree. any help would be welcome
     
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  3. Davidlee

    Davidlee Medium Load Member

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    Not sure about a Detroit but on others the ECM controls timing based on engine temp. so by placing a resistor across the coolant temp circuit you can alter the engine timing at part throttle light engine load. I made a device for this using a 7 position rotary switch from Radio Shack. In each switch position I soldered a resistor so as you rotate the switch clockwise the resistance value increases in the circuit sort of like the volume control on a stereo. As I recall the resistors I used were 11k 22k and 33k.
     
  4. red semi

    red semi Bobtail Member

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    i have tried a potimeter on the ait sensor and that kinda worked. was just comparing data specs on valve covers between my ddec-v and ddec-4 motors are trucks have and was thinking of ways to get a little more out of the egr model with less timing to have a little more grunt like the older ones.
     
  5. red semi

    red semi Bobtail Member

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    the 13 degree is factory timing on ddec-5 motor . 15 degree is factory on ddec-4 without egr. overhead has been done along with quarterly cleaning of all egr components including flushing cooler.
     
  6. bubbanbrenda

    bubbanbrenda Road Train Member

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    If you want to do it yourself...
    http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...teen-wheelers/152719-detroit-power-boost.html

    Or read ALL the comments on here...
    http://letstruck.com/group/detroit60seregr/forum/topics/egr-update-new-device

     
  7. red semi

    red semi Bobtail Member

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    i've tried this and i have the resistor trick with pin connectors from radio shack to swap out with barametric sensor in case any egr problems occur on the road. Personally think for me not really noticeable for any power gains. turbo is more responsive off the line but that seems to be more with vnt being more active to compensate for thin air at higher altitude. Read somewhere in detroit literature that anything above mile high ,you lose about 2-3 percent horsepower.
     
  8. Pablo-UA

    Pablo-UA Road Train Member

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    the only way is to use DDCT to change timing charts, but I cant be sure engine runs better after this tuning
     
  9. red semi

    red semi Bobtail Member

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    thanks for the reply was just trying to look outside the box and alter what the computer see's. maybe santa will bring me a laptop with hardware and i can see what the computer is seeing lol
     
  10. V8Lenny

    V8Lenny Road Train Member

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    can you move the crank position sensors by filing the holes oval? I know it has been done with some engines, gives maybe 1 or 2 degrees range.
     
  11. red semi

    red semi Bobtail Member

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    i'll have to look tomorrow. Could also see how much plastic is around the "eye" of sensor and shave down one side to give offset maybe
     
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