Electronic Logs

My truck is NOT my house. It is a vehicle owned by my company.

 

parse the words.. I stated "I hate to say it, but I ALMOST hope these things get mandated" That is a far cry from really wanting them. One of the biggest problems with any discussion is dealing with the low reading level of others.

I only care about others that are thinking adults and seek real solutions or alternatives to problems. You are dead right, I do not care one wit for whining children in trucks.

 

Huh? No time to unload because the 14 hr is up? There is no limit for ON DUTY (if one was to be a stickler and log every minute at a dock as ON DUTY, which most do not).

 

My condolences to you and yours for having to bust your chops so hard to make a living. Sounds like a modern day trucking sweatshop. And the only way it can be done is by playing games with a paper log.

http://www.overdriveonline.com/logbook-falsifying-leads-to-18-month-prison-sentence/

It only takes getting caught once.

And as for sitting around shippers and receivers all the time. I have no problem with that. I got paid the other day $240 for just sitting an extra 5 hrs at a customer playing on my laptop. I got paid not long ago $375 while a full 10 hr break at a customer because they couldn't get me to the dock at the appointment time. No, wasn't in violation. The customer said they could not get me to dock for almost 10 hrs, so to pull over to the side and take a break. And They paid me $375 for the delay. There is NOTHING in the regs that say ALL time on customer property be logged on duty. Sure, I might MAKE more with the truck running down the road, but it COSTS to run a truck down the road. I'll take those nice detention pays any day of the week. No cost, pure profit. Too bad they don't happen often. Most of my customers actually get me in and out pretty quickly. But in those instances when they can't, I don't have to pry open their wallet with a crow bar to pay for my time.

You guys who do not know how to run loads and are just chasing miles are the ones that will have a problem. I long since left that way of doing business. That is what I meant by separating the men from the boys. Sorry that it hurt your feelings.

 

I want more $$$, if my company said "were going to put everyone on E-logs and Qualcom, but everyone gets a .10cpm raise", then I think I wouldn't notice the E-logs on my paycheck...

I hate the thought of not being able to make it home when I'm an hour from the house, or the truck stop to get a shower...I like to shower right after I load/unload, because I don't want to drive a truck smelly and dirty. I prefer to sleep at on ramps or recievers/shippers so I don't think that would hurt me much, I just want to have time for my showers and meals...

is what it is I guess, I see being told when/where to stop as a sweatshop I guess...

If I want to stop and check out a chrome shop or attraction mid trip I get to stop and check it out without worrying about my E-log going crazy.

 

i dont know if you are joking or being sarcastic

yes, many of us can run 1,000mi per day, but why? if you are getting paid mileage, that may be the problem, or maybe out west you have to run so many miles

i did that when i first started, and once in a while now, but honestly, i hate running that hard, and i am not lazy, but i see no purpose in killing yourself (it wears on your body to run that hard continuously)

and i am not talking about the HOS, i am just saying, because you can do it, doesnt mean its good for you

 

I find it funny you say any driver that is against E-logs are "whining children" but yet you "whine" just as much standing up for the E-log. Why do you "back" E-logs so much? Just because they work in your operation doesn't mean they will work for everyone else.

NOT one person has yet to show any amount of proof that E-logs will benefit the trucking industry nor the safety of our roads that our families travel upon.

So the only arguement I have heard is well they are coming so just learn to adapt. What? Really? Something so big is being mandated against truckers and this is all you can say.

 

if there was no limit for on duty. why does everyone put great emphasis on the 14 hour clock????
my computer won't let me log anything after 14. other then sleeper or off duty. so how do i log that trailer that's been unloading for 5 hours after my 14.

 

there is no limit to on duty time, you can work until the end of time. You just can't drive until you have a qualifying break in.

 

meltom

something is very seriously wrong when guys who drive for a living are still having a hard time comprehending the earlier changes to the HOS

and now, uncle sam has made it even more difficult, confusing and cumbersome

i am really trying to figure out how all this will pan out

less understanding will result in more violations
more violations will be a red flag that we need more rules
more rules will result in less understanding

we have a 15,000 page tax code book, how long will it take before the fmcsa HOS will become its competitor?

something is seriously wrong with the system. and legislating more rules and putting people more onto computers is not the answer