Have $500.00 cash in your pocket when stopping/parking @ Walmart in Eaton,Ohio

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  1. bleaubell

    bleaubell Light Load Member

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    double_r......we had 2 boxes from U-Haul, picked them up in Charleston, WV that morning and we were dropping them off in Tulsa, OK....but could not go 64 (Kentucky) because there is an issue with KYU#....that is way we worked our way 35 West towards 70W
     
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  3. Flatbedn

    Flatbedn Road Train Member

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    You do know you could have run I64 to I44 right in to tulsa, Right?:biggrin_25513:
     
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  4. ShootThis

    ShootThis Medium Load Member

    Could call Al,(937) 456-369,get his side.
     
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  5. goblue

    goblue Road Train Member

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    haha...slim shadys from Chicago and knows the parking game...lol.

    true story. I bought an item from a guy in Chicago and had to drive the 3 hours there, told him i would get there around 8pm and call his cell as he was gonna go out for a while. I get into Chicago and call him, he calls me back and tells me his car was towed. So I arranged to go out and pick him up as I had already made the drive and wanted my stuff. I go to where he's at and no lie he took a risk and parked at an apartment building and they towed him. I drove him to his place and did the deal, then brought him to the tow yard where he paid the $150 or whatever. The guy was a trip, it was business as usual for him, just part of living in Chicago...he wasn't mad or pissed at all about it. I got my stuff, he got his car back and went on his way. I just ended up making things easier for both of us.

    I have a relative who is an attorney. He would call this type of thing "stupid tax". It was most likely preventable, probably a bad deal, but not worth investing a lot of time pursuing to get your $250 back. He would say move on and forward and take it as education.

    Some easy things to do would be email the police department and make a citizen complaint. Chiefs will get these and follow up on them. You can also contact the walmart by mail and try to get a better explanation.

    I also like the dashcam thing...put it on youtube! maybe you will get a million hits and get some $$ back. title it "gay cops hugging at scene of parking complaint!"
     
  6. volvodriver01

    volvodriver01 Road Train Member

    Just by the way the op routes himself I am going to call bs on this one as well. There is no way a company would have him drive so far out of route for nothing. This is like the nose in parking thread so dumb but yet still going.
     
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  7. double_r

    double_r Heavy Load Member

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    Translation: We don't want to pay the state of KY $0.0285 cents per mile:biggrin_25523:
     
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  8. SHC

    SHC Spoiled Rotten Brat O/O

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    As i ststed before, I've stopped at that WalMart multiple times and never had an issue. i used to deliver to a few places in Eaton and Springborro and stopped there between deliveries and grabbed some lunch.

    So you have these reciepts??? post them up then, and this video you have as well......

    As for having issues with your KYU number, sounds like your boss doesn't like paying his taxes.... but will put video cams in the trucks and pay the OOR miles in fuel, which is 99% more $ than paying the KY distance tax.
     
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  9. cableclown

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    LOL thats what i would do i would make it look like i was doing a drop, once at menards in april they thought i was bringing in there landscape stuff.lol i always just made it look like i belong an blend in.and park by the loading un loading docks at wallmart or target.i would do that too if i couldn't find a place to crash for the night,i would just stay out of the way in case the real delivery truck came in.
     
  10. double_r

    double_r Heavy Load Member

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    It's 80 miles out of route:biggrin_25525:
     
  11. ibflat2

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    Ok Ohio towers are regulated by the Ohio PUC office. Yeah the same ones who mess with trucks...

    check out some of the law here regarding towing..

    ***************

    07. Tow Truck Regulations

    The Ohio General Assembly passed House Bill 87, and it was signed by Gov. Bob Taft on March 30, 2003. HB 87 removes the exemption for tow trucks hauling wrecked or disabled vehicles. They now fall under Public Utilities Commission of Ohio (PUCO) jurisdiction under Ohio Revised Code (ORC) 4921.07 and ORC 4921.02.
    Just like motor carriers that haul everything from produce to hazardous materials, for-hire tow trucks operating on Ohio's roadways must register with the PUCO. For-hire towing companies must also follow federal motor carrier safety regulations governing maintenance and repair, record keeping, driver licensing, drug and alcohol testing, and hours of service. The PUCO conducts regular inspections to ensure that tow truck operators are in compliance with the federal rules and assesses fines when violations are detected.
    Several categories of tow truck operators are exempt from PUCO registration requirements and federal motor carrier safety regulations, including:

    • Owners of tow trucks used for private business and not for-hire (This category includes salvage yards hauling only vehicles purchased for salvage and companies that operate tow trucks to service fleet vehicles.).
    • For-hire tow truck companies that operate entirely within one or more contiguous municipal areas.
    • Government agencies.
    The PUCO does not have the authority to set towing rates or vehicle impoundment fees and does not regulate the customer service quality or operating boundaries of tow truck companies. Questions and concerns regarding the service of a particular towing company should be directed to the Ohio Attorney General or the Better Business Bureau.
    Safety Rules

    The PUCO has adopted the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations (FMCSR) under Ohio Administrative Code (OAC) 4901:. These safety rules will apply to commercial motor vehicles as defined in the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR)49 Part 390.5.
    All motor carriers must maintain a driver qualification (DQ) file for each driver they use, which includes all items in CFR49 Part 391.51.
    All motor carriers must comply with hours of service regulations and maintain record of duty status, or, as the industry knows them, log books, for a period of 6 months, as required by CFR49 Part 395.8. If you operate locally then you can use the exception found in CFR49 Part 395.1(E).
    All motor carriers must maintain maintenance records as required in CFR49 Part 396.3. All drivers must complete a daily inspection of each vehicle operated listing any and all safety defects, and carriers must maintain these inspections as required by CFR49 Part 396.11 and effect repairs of safety items before the commercial motor vehicle may be dispatched again.
    All motor carriers are required to have all commercial motor vehicles inspected on an annual basis, and documentation that the commercial motor vehicle passed the inspection must be carried on board as required in CFR49 Part 396.17.
    Alcohol and Drug Testing is required by CFR49 Part 382 if the size and or weight of the commercial motor vehicle requires the driver to possess a commercial drivers license (CDL) as required in ORC 4506.
    Note: The definition of a commercial motor vehicle in CFR49 Part 383.5 is for that part only.



    http://www.puco.ohio.gov/puco/index...ion/industry-topics/07-tow-truck-regulations/ (link to the reference and laws)


    and the laws regarding towing from private property are below


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    [h=1]4513.60 Vehicle left on private residential or private agricultural property without the permission of person having right to possession of property.[/h](A)(1) The sheriff of a county or chief of police of a municipal corporation, township, or township or joint police district, within the sheriff's or chief's respective territorial jurisdiction, upon complaint of any person adversely affected, may order into storage any motor vehicle, other than an abandoned junk motor vehicle as defined in section 4513.63 of the Revised Code, that has been left on private residential or private agricultural property for at least four hours without the permission of the person having the right to the possession of the property. The sheriff or chief of police, upon complaint of the owner of a repair garage or place of storage, may order into storage any motor vehicle, other than an abandoned junk motor vehicle, that has been left at the garage or place of storage for a longer period than that agreed upon. The place of storage shall be designated by the sheriff or chief of police. When ordering a motor vehicle into storage pursuant to this division, a sheriff or chief of police, whenever possible, shall arrange for the removal of the motor vehicle by a private tow truck operator or towing company. Subject to division (C) of this section, the owner of a motor vehicle that has been removed pursuant to this division may recover the vehicle only in accordance with division (E) of this section.
    (2) Divisions (A)(1) to (3) of this section do not apply to any private residential or private agricultural property that is established as a private tow-away zone in accordance with division (B) of this section.
    (3) As used in divisions (A)(1) and (2) of this section, "private residential property" means private property on which is located one or more structures that are used as a home, residence, or sleeping place by one or more persons, if no more than three separate households are maintained in the structure or structures. "Private residential property" does not include any private property on which is located one or more structures that are used as a home, residence, or sleeping place by two or more persons, if more than three separate households are maintained in the structure or structures.
    (B)(1) The owner of private property may establish a private tow-away zone only if all of the following conditions are satisfied:
    (a) The owner posts on the owner's property a sign, that is at least eighteen inches by twenty-four inches in size, that is visible from all entrances to the property, and that contains at least all of the following information:
    (i) A notice that the property is a private tow-away zone and that vehicles not authorized to park on the property will be towed away;
    (ii) The telephone number of the person from whom a towed-away vehicle can be recovered, and the address of the place to which the vehicle will be taken and the place from which it may be recovered;
    (iii) A statement that the vehicle may be recovered at any time during the day or night upon the submission of proof of ownership and the payment of a towing charge, in an amount not to exceed ninety dollars, and a storage charge, in an amount not to exceed twelve dollars per twenty-four-hour period; except that the charge for towing shall not exceed one hundred fifty dollars, and the storage charge shall not exceed twenty dollars per twenty-four-hour period, if the vehicle has a manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating in excess of ten thousand pounds and is a truck, bus, or a combination of a commercial tractor and trailer or semitrailer.
    (b) The place to which the towed vehicle is taken and from which it may be recovered is conveniently located, is well lighted, and is on or within a reasonable distance of a regularly scheduled route of one or more modes of public transportation, if any public transportation is available in the municipal corporation or township in which the private tow-away zone is located.
    (2) If a vehicle is parked on private property that is established as a private tow-away zone in accordance with division (B)(1) of this section, without the consent of the owner of the property or in violation of any posted parking condition or regulation, the owner or the owner's agent may remove, or cause the removal of, the vehicle, the owner and the operator of the vehicle shall be deemed to have consented to the removal and storage of the vehicle and to the payment of the towing and storage charges specified in division (B)(1)(a)(iii) of this section, and the owner, subject to division (C) of this section, may recover a vehicle that has been so removed only in accordance with division (E) of this section.
    (3) If a municipal corporation requires tow trucks and tow truck operators to be licensed, no owner of private property located within the municipal corporation shall remove, or shall cause the removal and storage of, any vehicle pursuant to division (B)(2) of this section by an unlicensed tow truck or unlicensed tow truck operator.
    (4) Divisions (B)(1) to (3) of this section do not affect or limit the operation of division (A) of this section or sections 4513.61 to 4513.65 of the Revised Code as they relate to property other than private property that is established as a private tow-away zone under division (B)(1) of this section.
    (C) If the owner or operator of a motor vehicle that has been ordered into storage pursuant to division (A)(1) of this section or of a vehicle that is being removed under authority of division (B)(2) of this section arrives after the motor vehicle or vehicle has been prepared for removal, but prior to its actual removal from the property, the owner or operator shall be given the opportunity to pay a fee of not more than one-half of the charge for the removal of motor vehicles under division (A)(1) of this section or of vehicles under division (B)(2) of this section, whichever is applicable, that normally is assessed by the person who has prepared the motor vehicle or vehicle for removal, in order to obtain release of the motor vehicle or vehicle. Upon payment of that fee, the motor vehicle or vehicle shall be released to the owner or operator, and upon its release, the owner or operator immediately shall move it so that: (1) If the motor vehicle was ordered into storage pursuant to division (A)(1) of this section, it is not on the private residential or private agricultural property without the permission of the person having the right to possession of the property, or is not at the garage or place of storage without the permission of the owner, whichever is applicable.
    (2) If the vehicle was being removed under authority of division (B)(2) of this section, it is not parked on the private property established as a private tow-away zone without the consent of the owner or in violation of any posted parking condition or regulation.
    (D)(1) If an owner of private property that is established as a private tow-away zone in accordance with division (B)(1) of this section or the authorized agent of such an owner removes or causes the removal of a vehicle from that property under authority of division (B)(2) of this section, the owner or agent promptly shall notify the police department of the municipal corporation, township, or township or joint police district in which the property is located, of the removal, the vehicle's license number, make, model, and color, the location from which it was removed, the date and time of its removal, the telephone number of the person from whom it may be recovered, and the address of the place to which it has been taken and from which it may be recovered.
    (2) Each county sheriff and each chief of police of a municipal corporation, township, or township or joint police district shall maintain a record of motor vehicles that the sheriff or chief orders into storage pursuant to division (A)(1) of this section and of vehicles removed from private property in the sheriff's or chief's jurisdiction that is established as a private tow-away zone of which the sheriff or chief has received notice under division (D)(1) of this section. The record shall include an entry for each such motor vehicle or vehicle that identifies the motor vehicle's or vehicle's license number, make, model, and color, the location from which it was removed, the date and time of its removal, the telephone number of the person from whom it may be recovered, and the address of the place to which it has been taken and from which it may be recovered. Any information in the record that pertains to a particular motor vehicle or vehicle shall be provided to any person who, either in person or pursuant to a telephone call, identifies self as the owner or operator of the motor vehicle or vehicle and requests information pertaining to its location.
    (3) Any person who registers a complaint that is the basis of a sheriff's or police chief's order for the removal and storage of a motor vehicle under division (A)(1) of this section shall provide the identity of the law enforcement agency with which the complaint was registered to any person who identifies self as the owner or operator of the motor vehicle and requests information pertaining to its location.
    (E) The owner of a motor vehicle that is ordered into storage pursuant to division (A)(1) of this section or of a vehicle that is removed under authority of division (B)(2) of this section may reclaim it upon payment of any expenses or charges incurred in its removal, in an amount not to exceed ninety dollars, and storage, in an amount not to exceed twelve dollars per twenty-four-hour period; except that the charge for towing shall not exceed one hundred fifty dollars, and the storage charge shall not exceed twenty dollars per twenty-four-hour period, if the vehicle has a manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating in excess of ten thousand pounds and is a truck, bus, or a combination of a commercial tractor and trailer or semitrailer. Presentation of proof of ownership, which may be evidenced by a certificate of title to the motor vehicle or vehicle also shall be required for reclamation of the vehicle. If a motor vehicle that is ordered into storage pursuant to division (A)(1) of this section remains unclaimed by the owner for thirty days, the procedures established by sections 4513.61 and 4513.62 of the Revised Code shall apply.
    (F) No person shall remove, or cause the removal of, any vehicle from private property that is established as a private tow-away zone under division (B)(1) of this section other than in accordance with division (B)(2) of this section, and no person shall remove, or cause the removal of, any motor vehicle from any other private property other than in accordance with division (A)(1) of this section or sections 4513.61 to 4513.65 of the Revised Code.
    (G) Whoever violates division (B)(3) or (F) of this section is guilty of a minor misdemeanor.
    Amended by 129th General Assembly File No. 28, HB 153, § 101.01, eff. 9/29/2011.
    Amended by 128th General Assembly File No. 9, HB 1, § 101.01, eff. 10/16/2009.
    Effective Date: 01-01-2004


    http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/4513.60 (reference link to above laws)
     
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