Need Advice: Shopping for first Class 8

That M11 engine is going to blow at MPGs. He mentioned he is going to be running at gross weight. Pulling that much weight with a little throw away engine is not going to produce good MPGs because the engine is working itself to death all the time.
Any empty running and it'll make good mileage.



This is the first I've heard about older trucks being required to meet 2007 EPA standards. I'm wondering if Guy'slady can provide us with a link to back up her statement on that.

 

It's not the EPA standards I refer to. It's CARB standards, which the EPA usually follows suit with them very quickly. You know, if CARB does it, EPA will do it soon after, kind of thing. To find CARB standards, go to www.californiaairresoursesboard.gov

I'd so much rather be safe than sorry.

 

That link is no good. Try http://www.arb.ca.gov/homepage.htm

I am looking for the proof of your statement that older trucks will be forced to become 07 compliant. So far nothing.


Its possible you were saying older engines can't be tampered with, but that is not saying they will be forced to become 07 compliant. Without changing the engine and adding a particulate filter that will never happen.

 

I have NO doubt that that is their goal. I know they are trying to do that in CA at the ports with the container haulers.

However I was disputing the statement that its already happened.

 

I have all the ppw in front of me, I am just going to have to find it on the website. It's a HUGE mess. They are putting one thing on the net, and another on the papers.

I promise I will either find a way to get it to you, or make the ppw appear on here. Even if I have to take pics of it and post them! LOL! (God, at the warped ideas I come up with!)