Switching back & forth between CA intrastate and Fed interstate HOS

Good questions, I wish I had better answers.

When I was primarily intrastate with an occaisonal foray elsewhere I would always keep to an 11/14 for 6 days after I got back to CA. That way if asked to show my logs I would't confuse the LEO. My guess would be no to your first question. You would have to do a reset.

Second question, 10 off should be good. You have a week off duty, you can claim that you were intrastate for however long before your home time and that you went 11/14 as soon as you started the load that crossed the state lines.

As the disagreements are sure to begin I would like to know why all states can't use CA hours. They are a huge boost to your productivity.

 

I can't answer your question, but the comment re: switching from U.S. HOS to Canadian and back is not correct. A driver operates under the rules of whatever jurisdiction they are in. The switch occurs once you cross a border and there is no rest period required when switching HOS. A rest break might be required at the border if a driver is coming from Canada and is past their 11th hour of driving; 13/14/70 in Canada.

 

The OP was asking about California,not Canada.

 

The OP made reference to a rule that doesn't exist. Someone less knowledgeable may read it and believe it to be true.

I didn't know we had thread police deciding what can be commented on.

 

During my FMCSA New Entrant Audit, CHP DOT said that that can only apply to CA based carriers with a CHP issued CA# and load has to originate and terminate intrastate. If you pick up a load in NV and head for CA, you are subject to FEDERAL HOS for the entire run, regardless of a 10 hour break.

 

it's an example. regardless. and a good one i think.

i didn't know CA had different hos rules.

and my understand is, if your running INTRASTATE. you have to be permitted for the state. correct????? or wrong???
and if your permitted. wouldn't you have a state dot #. if you run intrastate on a regular basis. and not occasionally.

 

Not all states have a state requirement like a DOT #. Some it is just a simple registration and tags like a car. If you are a CA based motor carrier however, you have to have a "CA" # if you run interstate or intrastate. If you ONLY run intrastate, you do not need a federal DOT #. Outside carriers do not have to have a CA #...other states like KY require all that pass through to have a KY #...consistency...gotta love it!

 

Hypothetical A: No, at least according to the feds. The FMCSA claims jurisdiction over a driver for a period of 7 or 8 days (depending upon whether you are operating on the 60/7 or 70/8 rule) after the driver engages in interstate commerce.

Hypothetical B: If it has been 8 days since you last engaged in interstate commerce you are entitled to California's intrastate hours of service including 12 hours of driving. Remember if you are engaging in intrastate commerce in California you must have a California Motor Carrier of Property Permit (MCP).

Here's the link to answer your hypothetical A question...see question 24...enjoy.
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regu...fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=390.3&guidence=Y