I have a detroit 60 series 12.7. It is in an 2003 Freightliner XL classic. This engine was great until I let it sit over Christmas for about a week. It got rather cold here and when I went to start up it would not fire. It cranks good but just would not fire. So I used starting fluid and have had to do so ever since. I replaced three fuel lines that were worn and bypassed two fuel shut off valves back under the cab. Still it just cranks.
Once I get it started it runs great and strong. I can shut it off for up to two hours and it will start right back up. But after it three hours or more of not running it will not start.
I had my mechanic check the check valve on the back of the engine and he says it is good. Now he wants to pull the injectors out and check them. I stopped him there and said it runs great, i don't think it is an injector.
Can anyone tell me why this engine is losing it's prime? No air bubbles in the fuel filter globe anymore (that was the reason for getting rid of the fuel shut off valves), new fuel lines, and no shut off valves. Could it really be the injectors?
Thanks
B
Detroit won't start when cold????
Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by Beethoven, Jan 15, 2013.
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some engines are more cold blooded then others
detriots are the usual suspects
older engines with less compression are also main contributors
might not be anything but an old trired engine that likes starting fluid
if previous owner used it has probably washed down the cylinders
reducing compression and a bottle of ether and acceptance is the answer -
There is a check valve on the back of the Davco fuel filter where the inlet line hooks up. It screws into the filter base and the fuel line screws into it. They can go bad, and I have seen junk from the tank get stuck in them and hold the valve seat open. This will cause your problem.
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You still have an air leak somewhere. I'm going to guess either the filter assembly or fuel pump fittings. I'd buy a new Davco before I started pulling injectors.
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+1 for the Davco check valve. It is very simple to pull them out and clean them, just don't lose the little spring, do it over a clean pan. If that's not it, I'd guess that you have a small leak somewhere and it loses prime.
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That check valve at the back of the head should have just been replaced, not inspected. It doesn't take much to have them leak back. I doubt you can tell by just looking at it.
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How did he check it>shake it, blow into it?
Replace it and rule it out as being the problem.Heavyd Thanks this. -
A 60 series needs 195 RPM to start and it needs an SRS signal. when you try starting it, look, with a flashlight into the fuel tank, you will see two tubes usually the front one is the return, if it is sucking air it will blow out air. Never in all my years of working on S60 have I seen a check valve fail. It is a ball and seat with a spring.
For years either cans were yellow, color coding for what they were used on. You can destroy the rings on an engine abusing either. -
Check valves with a ball seat usually just don't fail by their design, but I definitely have seen junk from the fuel tank hold open a check valve on a Davco filter. Also, using WD40 instead of starting fluid will not cause a big explosion in the cylinders like starting fluid, and it also will provide lubrication at the same time, while starting an engine the same as starting fluid will.NavigatorWife Thanks this.
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They took the stuff out of wd40 that made it a good starting fluid
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