I am Going To Lease A Truck. Tell me Who To Go With.

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by PICNIC, Jan 18, 2013.

  1. silenteagle

    silenteagle Road Train Member

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    Boy, now we are posting in BOLD hoping to get your point across. Chompi, although your intentions are honorable, your mind is closed. Not saying that 80% of people fail at leasing (also called running a business) but that is the average that the Small Business Administration says is for any small business. Some people just suck at the self discipline that it takes to make a business work.

    For Everyone: The FMCSA and the California CARB has pretty much painted the picture that long nosed Pete's and other Non-aerodynamic trucks will be "encouraged" off the road over the next few years. As of now, if you don't have a waiver you cannot go to California with a truck that is not "Smartway" compliant. Anyone in the trucking business or getting into the trucking business should be adjusting their 5 year business plan to transition into a smartway compliant truck if they don't already have one. YES, that means DEF and the new SCR engines that "can't breathe" but still can get 7MPG easy.

    For a guy just arriving back on the scene, this guy will probably not qualify for a loan for $120,000 for a truck. If he does, he will be paying 9%-19% interest, blowing up the cost of the truck to exceed $160,000.

    THERE ARE GOOD LEASE COMPANIES OUT THERE. Few and far between, but I have met, and some have posted, that have completed leases on newer and older trucks. Ask for a copy of the lease for attorney review. If they don't want to give you a copy, they are probably hiding something. Do your homework: make a list of obligations that the lease will bestow upon you, as well as the obligations that the lease company will incurr for you. See if it fits your operating model layed out in your business plan.

    If you can buy a brand new smartway compliant truck for around $120,000-130,000 with the ability to write off the full cost each year of the lease, then buy it for $1, then it is possible to get into your own O/O situation with a newer model truck within 4 years.

    Of course, if you want to take Chompi's advice, go become a company driver and drive their truck. Nothing wrong with being a company driver.
     
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  3. PICNIC

    PICNIC Light Load Member

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    I have chompi on my ignore list so I really have no idea what he has posted, nor do I care to. It goes against every single fiber of my being, not to give a man or woman a second chance to explain their selves. chompi has moved to the head of that list. He is the second person in my 51 years of life, that has ever pushed me to that point. Enough about chompi.

    For all the people that think they are the only ones that can run a truck and make a living at it, go to this site and read the "Financials". That should be enough to maybe make you think twice before telling a man that he has no chance of making it in this business. I realize you don't know me, therefore, you have no right to judge my business skills. As far as my driving skills, 90% of the loads I carried in the 80's and 90's, required over weight, height and width permits, all at the same time. We used to call them "Blanket Permits", I have no idea what they are called now. This much I can tell you, when I was bypassing scales back in the day and got caught, there was more then one occasion that I was handcuffed to the scale house wall, waiting for the company check to be faxed, to pay the fine! Their choice, not mine. Just young and stupid. I am just about tired of beating this dead horse! I think I will go find another sand box to play in. I going to go see how to delete this account. Drive Safe!
     
  4. silenteagle

    silenteagle Road Train Member

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    I am here to tell you that you CAN make a living and do what you want to do. I am doing exactly that, as a new driver. I am Lease-purchasing a 12' cascadia through Success Leasing with Prime Inc. I had to put $11,500 down ($1500 was for the APU) and on a 3 1/2 year lease I am paying $117,000 for my truck with a $1 baloon payment at the end. They give me miles, but I am payed percentage. As Kevin Rutheford says, I have paid some stupid taxes over the last year, but am looking at a good year this year. Not all leases are bad, and not all drivers know how to run a business. Having cash put away is a great thing, but you will have to start off as a student and go through the training program with your 5 year absence. I would gladly train you, but I am not available until March.
     
  5. 123456

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    Good Luck PICNIC !
     
  6. j50wells

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    I think Poker hound isn't smart. I can tell because it is usually the guy that likes to insult others that has a hidden craving to feel smart, because in the long run, he is not smart. Hey, he's gotta feel good about himself somehow. As far as not driving four years goes....did you keep your CDL? If so, you can get on with a company somewhere. Might have to ride with a trainer for a month but this whole idea of having to go back to a driving school is hogwash.
     
  7. j50wells

    j50wells Bobtail Member

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    What Mark says makes sense. I've been trucking for fifteen years. I've picked many a brain from o/o's and leasers. My conclusion is that owning a truck and then leasing on with a company is a better bet. On the other hand, if you have the right connections, getting your own loads is better money.
     
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