Freightliner stepping away from cracked frame rail.

Discussion in 'Freightliner Forum' started by MNdriver, Feb 5, 2013.

  1. trees

    trees Road Train Member

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    Looks interesting...... I might have to give some a try...
     
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  3. sdaniel

    sdaniel Road Train Member

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    Leave the poor guy alone. He has had it rough enough. He had pro at a frame shop repair it. They know what they are doing. And if every repair they make is illegal , the government would have shut them down. Me and MN disagreed on what I think I saw in his pictures, but I m not there to see first hand.
     
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  4. GrapeApe

    GrapeApe Road Train Member

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    I'm not taking any sides on this, but to clarify what the manufactures recommendations are (the legal way), the official word is copied below right from accessfreightliner.com service lit. "There are no approved repair methods." There is another section that explains frame welding procedures, but they are only allowed to be done when pre-approved by a DTNA District Service Manager.


    Frame and Mounting System 31.01
    Frame Service


    Drilling Precautions
    CAUTION
    Do not drill holes in the frame rails or crossmembers.
    The frame rails and crossmembers are tempered
    steel. Drilling tends to reduce the frame rail
    or crossmember strength, which can result in
    structural failure of the frame rails or crossmembers.


    Welding Precautions
    CAUTION
    Except for pre-approved procedures listed in this
    service manual, or approved by Engineering
    through the DTNA District Service Manager, do
    not apply heat to, nor weld the frame rails or
    crossmembers. Heating or welding the frame in
    localized areas will reduce the strength of the
    frame in localized areas, which can result in
    structural failure of the frame.
    Welding of the frame rails or crossmembers is not
    permitted. This reduces the temper of the steel,
    causing reduction of frame strength.
    Frame Strength Identification
    A code symbol is punched in the side rails near the
    front spring rear hangers.
    The code symbol shown in Fig. 1 identifies a frame
    rated at 50,000 psi.


    Frame Straightening
    To prevent internal stresses in the metal, limit frame
    straightening to parts that are not severely bent. Do
    not apply heat to the frames.
    Correct any frame misalignment by straightening the
    out-of-line parts, or by replacing the crossmembers,
    braces, or brackets if they are badly damaged.
    Straightening should be attempted on frames that fail
    to meet specifications of the diagonal checking
    method, or where damage is visually apparent.


    Frame Reinforcing
    No repair method is approved. Frame reinforcements
    are not permitted.
    After straightening a bent frame member, inspect the
    member closely for cracks. If any cracks show, the
    frame member must be replaced.
    IMPORTANT: If a damaged frame member is
    replaced, use new Grade 8 fasteners for all replacement
    frame parts.
    02/16/98 f310666
    Fig. 1, Frame Strength Identification Symbol
    Frame and Mounting System 31.01
    Frame Service
    L-
     
  5. sdaniel

    sdaniel Road Train Member

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    Yet they stretch frames in their own shops . And have frame drills in every one of their shops. CMA is not the country music awards. Over the years our local freightliner has lengthened and shortened frames for different jobs. Can not find the right truck for the job , make one.
     
  6. GrapeApe

    GrapeApe Road Train Member

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    Yes, many dealerships modify frames. If they follow the rules, engineering approves the mods. At my last job, we had 2004-2006 Sterlings that had the frame rails stick out past the rear cross member too far. This caused problems in sharp turns when pulling a dolly. I took a long time for them to approve and send out very specific instructions on shortening the frames 6".

    Like I said, I'm not taking sides. I'm sure that many things can safely be done that the factory says cannot be done. It's all about liability. You wont get anyone at Freightliner to say that repairing a frame is OK.
     
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  7. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    The manufacturers just want to control the process in order to limit their liability if something happens.
     
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  8. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    So ultimately, performing a non-approved repair shifts the liability away from the manufacturer and onto the carrier, truck owner, and shop that performed the repair.
     
  9. Autocar

    Autocar Road Train Member

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    And subject to a violation of the regs if caught by an inspector that knows what the manufacturer recommends and does not recommend.
     
  10. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    "reasonable person".....
     
  11. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    How many DOT inspectors do you know that are 'reasonable'? And that only works in court. Good luck getting an OOS violation into court without a citation attached.
     
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