horton roller spring pins...??

We had a few customers that bought the Horton roller pins, they wore out really quick as the spring does not move enough, so the rollers just wear into the pins.
You truck should have rubber bushings in the springs, no grease.

 

I like the Horton roller pins and bushings myself, not arguing just sayin.... The Hortons only work right if your not afraid of a grease gun, I'm off road more than most I've always greased weekly so nothing really changed for me, but I know guys that only grease every 7500 miles, and they will not like Hortons. Don't know anything about the Kaiser no-reams....yet

 

No experience w/ Horton roller spring pin but did installed Kaiser king pins myself. (w/ help from a friend who's also a o/o leased to the same company) That was early last year (?) and all I can say is: so far so good. The theory behind it is good and so is their reputation / experience in their product offerings but I don't have any "real feel" for the product. Only time will tell. Few of my friends have Kaiser king pins in their trucks and they swore by it, hence I got my when the time to replace them came up.

 

IMO, the Hortons do not last as long as regular bushings, they are also much more expensive. They had several FLD's and L9000's that had Hortons, we seemed to always be changing them, not nearly as many bronze bushings needed replacement.The theory behind the rollers is easier spring extension when hitting bumps. It's supposed to make a better ride and better steer tire wear. In the real world, regularly greased bronze bushings work just fine. Not 1 driver noticed a difference when we converted back to bushings.

We had Sterlings that came with the rubber bushings and after years of poor tire wear and shimmy issues, Sterling came out with a kit to replace the rubbers with regular bushings and it helped tire wear and stopped the shimmy complaints. I don't think it was really 100% to blame on the rubber bushings. I think it also had to do with the single leaf springs combined with their refusal to balance or use equal in steer tires, but the bronzes bushing conve. Rubber bushings may work fine with 2 leaf springs and balanced tires. My opinion is that flimsy springs and unbalance tires caused a minor shimmy and the rubber bushings just amplified it.

I been using Kaiser king pin kits for years. They work just fine, I have never changed king pins more than once on any truck yet.

 

The land of Hastings... LOL I've got a few friends out your way Wilmington,Leesburg and Sabina

 

My OEM F-liner spring pins wore out half way to a million miles. Put in the Hortons and have rolled over the odometer and still tight. I have a set fwd axle so it's never seen 12K on it. I'd recommend them as long as they are greased often and not neglected.

 

The replacement rubber bushings are actually a lot better than the originals, the originals have rubber up against the springs the replacements have a steel bushing, reducing the area of rubber.
Using something that needs grease is great, IF someone greases it. Also putting in lateral shims, to keep the dirt out, even when they are screw in pins. They never would have gone to rubber bushings if you could get the owners/drivers to grease the truck.
I worked as a mechanic for over 40 years and can count on one hand the drivers that asked if they could check their truck or grease it.
Just a thought!