Ever heard of super solos?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by thefuture, Dec 22, 2007.

  1. CountryCharm05

    CountryCharm05 Bobtail Member

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    I have been a driver for 9 1/2 years now, and have been teaming for the last 6 years. I have never heard of super solo's, unless it's like a super trucker I would have a clue. Now for teaming and about the pay. Teams in general make more money since they are paid a base rate of pay that is split between the two and paid for all dispatched miles the truck runs. For all practucal reasons teams should be husband and wife, if not the money has to go to two different household.You can still profit more money in the long run as a team than solo. Just for say, a solo driver would make 40 cents per mile and runs 2500 miles a week he would gross $1000.00 a week. V/S A teams pay of 47 cents per mile that is split between the two making it 23.5 cents per mile and the truck runs 5000 miles a week, each driver would gross $1175.00. That equals out to an extra $350.00 a week to a team truck. Teams will do less sitting with the right company (but not with Prime) they are given more drop and hook loads than solo driver's, their load miles are longer, by that I mean average solo driver's run loads that range from 400 to 600 miles per trip. Teams run loads that average between 1500 to 2500 miles per trip. Check with a lot of different companies before signing on with anyone. Ask if the offer per deim also, that will help you take more money home. You will want to check with a lot of companies to get the better pay package for the team. On the down time, that really depends on the team, and the company you work for. Also if you are being given drop and hook loads or not. Good Luck
     
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  3. Powell-Peralta

    Powell-Peralta Road Train Member

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    What he might be referring to is practice of two persons forming a team, appling to a company, showing up for orientation etc. But, in actuallity, only one person is driving the truck and physically there is only one person in the truck. What this allows, with some serious logbook fudging, is higher mileage for the truck. And truck "appears" to the company to be able to cover these higher miles legally.

    Meanwhile, the other driver of the team is doing the exact, same thing at another company and thus both drivers are making theoretically double the pay of a regular solo per week.

    Diabolical!
     
  4. Brickman

    Brickman Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    The incredibly short length of time that this illegal activity would work is NOT worth the effort.
     
  5. CMoore2004

    CMoore2004 Road Train Member

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    More like 24 hours, theoretically, since you can start your 10 hour break when he starts his 11 driving... in practice, I'd love to see those logbooks:)
     
  6. thefuture

    thefuture Bobtail Member

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    what the hell does per deim mean???
     
  7. Powell-Peralta

    Powell-Peralta Road Train Member

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    That's actually a very good question.

    Per diem means "per day" in, i think, Latin?

    And, i actually can't really explain it because i don't really know what it is and that's why it's a good question and i will do some research and get back to you on it.

    Unless someone else can explain for us?
     
  8. im6under

    im6under Heavy Load Member

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    per diem in trucking means 2 different things (kinda the same).

    1) most commonly, the company will give you 7,8,9 cents of your mileage pay, tax exempt. this because you will be allowed the exemption at the end of the year anyways. You take home more money now instead of waiting for a refund at the end of the year.

    2) Used to be, a very long time ago, in a galaxy, far, far away...
    Some companies had real benefits like motel rooms and restaurant expenses paid by the company as a part of your wage (trip expense money). In 74, dad made 40k annually as his pay, and then another $50 a day as gee your out from family, compensation... there wasn't any 401's then but he also had a "real" retirement fund, separate teamster pension, full family health care.
    His truck had a sleeper but the company thought it best to put all of their drivers up in motels for better rest. they had to turn in receipts at the end of the week for whatever they spent so the company could claim it as a business expense. dad ate alot of steaks and it was just part of the deal for the "king of the road" era.

    yeah... there really were some good'ol days.... for some...
     
  9. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    Super Solos are commonly refered to as husband and wife teams (in name only)

    Many drivers in the past, had their wife get a CDL, then ran on both log books.

    Many companies have drivers still doing this to this day. A simple check of miles run, and a brief conversation with the team will bring it out.

    ANY TEAM that complains about having to run 5000 miles in one week...is a team in name only.

    Real teams make real money...period. Especially if the company they work for has a clue about logistics. If you aren't making money as a team, you are lazy, or your company is clueless.
     
  10. garspete

    garspete Light Load Member

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    as far as per diem goes you might want to check it out real good.
    my understanding from other posts ( and no experience myself ) the .07 cents per mile is deducted from your say .32 cents per mile. now your pay stub says your making .25 cents per mile. and that means your not paying in as much to your social security ( your retirement ) also if you go for a car loan etc your income will show less ( you might not show enough income for the car. )

    now the company pays less in taxes unemployment workmens comp etc. now if you can get away with not excepting per diem pay i think you can still claim living expences at the end of the year.

    yes i am a newbie but i,ve done a lot of reading on here and i think you might be wise to check into this a lot more. just my $ .02
     
  11. Jerryb

    Jerryb Bobtail Member

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    Hi All,

    I`ve heard the term, we use it in Canada.It`s team driving where the first partner is experienced and the second partner is`nt. It could be husband and wife but any combination is okay. The way it works is the inexperienced partner isn`t going to be able to drive hard as they are really still learning so the team do more work than solo but not as much as a full team. Its really intended to help the inexperienced partner get their confidence up the after a certain period you go full team. I would say it would more than likely be a family member of buddy you would do it with for the simple reason that you wouldn`t be earning as much as full team!

    Cheers from a English/Canadian trucker :biggrin_25525:
     
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