Need dot consultant? Dot advice

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by iamdot, Apr 29, 2009.

  1. airforcetoo

    airforcetoo Heavy Load Member

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    So once you figure out some driver is up to no good do you like call em up and tell em strike one?!
     
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  3. RickG

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    Excellent post but unless a safety person has over 10 years driving experience there is no way they are going to know many of the ways drivers try to beat logs .
    It is a lot harder with e-logs . Our e-logs are paired with Blackberrys . Some drivers thought they could claim a problem with the Blackberry and go to paper logs .
    The e-log tracker will still send data to the safety department every couple of hours . It won't be able to identify the driver but Safety knows who is in the truck
     
  4. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    Yup, there is ample warning. No need to chase drivers off, just let them know that we can't allow it, talk about DOT fines and what not.
     
  5. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    I'll disagree with that point. If a person wants to figure out how someone is cheating they can. I've had it easy and most of my companies have had tracking before they had eLogs. So you can figure out what people are doing, then you just need to keep digging until you figure out how people are doing it. The other part that helps is drivers love to brag, eventually they'll tell you how they're doing it, it's crazy, but if you get them talking they'll spill the beans. I learned that strategy selling ice cream, get people talking, listen to what they're saying, learn their hot buttons and strike when the time is right.
     
  6. RickG

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    I think cheaters need to be run off . If caught in an audit everyone pays the consequences . A few drivers falsifying logs resulted in our prepasses getting red lighted at scales and all drivers had to take online HOS lessons
     
  7. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    We're a good situation, we were making the change to eLogs when we had our last audit. Odds of us being pulled in for another audit right away are pretty slim. We don't tolerate continued cheating, and we do discipline drivers, just not as severely as others might. for the most part we're gaining compliance, but every now and then we get some bonehead driver that just operates in total disregard for the regulations. They typically weed themselves out.
     
  8. kajidono

    kajidono Road Train Member

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    Bout the only way I'd cheat was by parking at the shipper/receiver so I didn't have to move in the morning, then starting it after I was loaded/unloaded. Which with flatbed was usually the way it really went anyway since I'd park where I'd guess they'd unload it, pull the straps, and the forklift pulling stuff off would wake me up.
     
  9. airforcetoo

    airforcetoo Heavy Load Member

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    Really? How's that work???

    so what you're saying is that you would strike em with an ice cream cone or something?!?! explain 'strike when the time is right' Meltom
     
  10. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    So you get them talking, and comfortable. Then before you talk too long and you miss your sale, you make your pitch. You can't do it too soon either, otherwise they wont buy as much. So you need to recognize the situation and the persons comfort level, make them feel like you care and they'll buy.
     
  11. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    also hitting them with ice cream cones is acceptable. I'd usually give away stuff to guys working construction in the middle of nowhere and blazing hot days.
     
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