Speedco rip off

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by Roadhound, May 4, 2011.

  1. trees

    trees Road Train Member

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    There's some Speedco's that are ok, and some that are not... If they listen to you and wipe the zerks clean, and grease all of them, and inform you of any that aren't accepting grease, then they're ok, but really, I only let Speedco touch my truck if I absolutely can't do the service myself, which is rarely... I do use them for the UOA, they can manage that much... However, I'm planning on getting the vacuum pump from Blackstone and doing that too... Blackstone labs prepares a better UOA... http://www.blackstone-labs.com/
     
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  3. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    Delo seem to claim that after extensive testing, their standard 400 LE 15w40 is able to go to 70,000 miles with the new DD15 engines. So, trees, it would seem highly likely that using a good quality synthetic would do even better. Soot 4%? Wow. I get a little on edge when my soot gets above 1. But then, I am using a bypass filter. My soot numbers stay in the .2 - .4 category.
     
  4. bubbanbrenda

    bubbanbrenda Road Train Member

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    I understand that Detroit themselves set the service interval, I also understand that Detroit themselves are the one's that are going to make me bleed to fix it when it comes apart. I'm just saying it sounds kinda hanky to me. But in there defense they are the ONLY engine manufacturer that believes thier product will last for 5 years or 500,000 INLUDING TOWING. Ask if you can get that on a cummins or paccar. Everones conditions are different, mine are pretty severe, in the summer time I can trash an airfilter in 6-7000 miles. I change my dino oil and fleetguard filters every 6-10,000 miles in the summer and 12-15,000 in the winter. I don't think synthetic oil and a aftermarket filter of any kind will extend my service life enough to justify the expense.
     
  5. trees

    trees Road Train Member

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    Hi. I would be interested in the TAN and TBN on that 70k sample, but yeah, I think they could extend it considerably further than the factory recommendation. I have an EGR motor, and it always tested with soot being the primary factor determining oil usability. I installed bypass filters hoping to remove the soot, and they helped some, but not the dramatic improvement I was looking for.... changing out the full flow filters seems to be the biggest factor, believe it or not. I can pull a sample at 25k, have the soot percentage around 2.5 percent, change the full flow filters, run the truck for at least a thousand miles, and restest the oil.... wear numbers all dramatically lower, (which leads me to believe that some of the material previously sampled has been simply trapped within the new filters), and soot levels lower too, something like 1 to 1.5%, adding credibility to my filter trapping theory... Triboligists refer to this as "sweetening" the oil. The only problem is the cost, $40.00 for the make up oil, plus the cost of the new full flow filters... I had been using the Fleetguard Venturi combo filters, part# 9620, they're expensive and don't seem to trap the soot like Cummins claims they will. Just recently switched to the Luberfiner's, so the jury is still out on whether they trap better than the Fleetguard's and whether or not I'll get considerably more mileage before dumping the sump.... The bypass filters are always hot to the touch, which tells me that oil is flowing through them, and I've tried replacing them, (manufacturer suggested leaving them in till completely plugged, and determining this by filter housing temps, and using that to determine the bypass filter change interval), but it doesn't seem to affect the numbers like it does when I swap out the full flows.... Have 30k on the current oil and I'm really interested in the next batch of UOA numbers I'll be getting soon....best numbers I ever had was right at the beginning using plain old fleetguard 3620's, pulling them and spinning new ones on at 20k intervals, with the 3620's getting almost a gallon of new oil in them when replacing... I didn't have any bypass filters at that point and the oil was testing great at 50k, the only reason I dumped it was because of that psychological factor you were referring to earlier... The really interesting thing is that the engine doesn't use any oil, other than the oil that I put in the new filters when I'm swapping them out.. I just ordered a vacuum pump and oil test kits/containers from Blackstone, I've always been kind suspect about the analysis machines at Speedco, I'm curious what the UOA from Blackstone will have to say about things..
     
  6. carrkool

    carrkool Heavy Load Member

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    i just had mine done tonight. 2 gallons lucas 11 gallons oil 2 oil filter 2 fue filter and truck greesed 322 bucks out the door, same place a year ago cost 250 bucks for the same thing. seems prices are climbing again
     
  7. poppapump1332

    poppapump1332 Road Train Member

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    Delvac is way better then rotella least in my trucks
     
  8. carrkool

    carrkool Heavy Load Member

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    always ran rotella got 2 million on this old 96
     
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  9. SHC

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    Just went to Speedco today. Had an oil change, 2 air filters changed and oil analysis done. Total was $411 out the door with our $35 discount thru landstar.
     
  10. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    At least there's more oil ending up in your truck at Speedco, than on the shop floor at any TA. Besides... most of the monkeys at TA don't know what a torque wrench is, but they do know how to over torque a fill plug to the point it cracks an oil pan.
     
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  11. Ttruckjax

    Ttruckjax Bobtail Member

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    I've been in business for almost 6 years now and I have always done my own PM on my truck,, I understand that some O/O don't have the time sometimes, but in those places they rip you off, I buy two 5 gallons bucket of Chevron oil, a gallon of lucas, and oil filter for $ 160, and u guys spend 300 or almost 400$
     
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