Transition to EOBR

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Roadrunner007, Mar 6, 2013.

  1. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    i personally am not a big fan of hoffa.

    unions are the stupidest thing that costs people jobs. the company don't work for you. you work for the company. so, if you don't like the bum screwing. you find work elsewhere.

    think twinkies. OR the numerous airlines that almost became extinct like PAN AM.
     
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  3. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    Fighting technology that can make companies more efficient is going to be quite a struggle. Not to mention when you see that many companies are changing their pay structure to give raises based off of performance rather than longevity. It's kind of like ending social promotion for truck drivers. If you don't make the grade, you don't get the pay. EOBR's are going to help them do this.
     
  4. bullhaulerswife

    bullhaulerswife Forum Leader/Admin Staff Member Administrator

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    Your free to go into the political section and start your own thread in there about the eobr issues. I wanted this one to remain here so that the discussion could continue without the political bickering that happens from time to time.

    I cleaned up the thread so that the discussion could continue.
     
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  5. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    I agree. We have gotten ahold of a civil discussion here with ideas being tossed out there and no one having a cat hissy fit about anything. This is a rare occurrence indeed. And most of what is being discussed actually has nothing to do with anything political. Seems to me, all I am reading is grass roots ideas that might have traction in the trucking community. If we reasonably talk these ideas out, and can reach some form of consensus, then we might actually have the beginnings of something that would grow beyond the forum here. Who knows. It is a neat thought anyway.
     
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  6. bullhaulerswife

    bullhaulerswife Forum Leader/Admin Staff Member Administrator

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    Agreed! :biggrin_25514:

    My big concern for my husband, is that he's techno challenged, so learning the EOBR/Electronic Logs could be a deal breaker for him.

    He's never had an interest in technology, but give him something mechanical, and he's brilliant. :biggrin_2557:

    So at this point, I don't know what the future holds. He may throw his hands in the air and say "Forget it!" And I hate that thought, when we have done well enough to survive the economic downturn, and keep the truck rolling at a profit.
     
  7. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    That all depends on the system that you use. I've seen a handful of products, some offer lots of option but that takes multiple steps to do anything. It's very confusing and full of even more confusing abbreviations. I've seen other systems where it's very simple and driver friendly. When you want to change you press change status and your options show up. Everything after that looks just like a log book. My guess is some of these larger EOBR companies will buy up small ones and the overall product will offer the office the reports that they want to see and the drivers the ease of use that they'll need.
     
  8. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    The techno challenge thing was never my problem. My only concern was how the EOBR would work out and if I would lose revenue and net and how much. I had to at least give it a try and see what the result would be. I could have easily just said "no way" and took my truck elsewhere. And if it hadn't worked out with the EOBR, I could still take the truck somewhere else. But at least my decision would be based on fact and not fear. I realize that most folks having real problems with the EOBR idea, is that they are just plain scared of the unknown. That is not a bad thing, as it makes us cautious, but can be a problem if one allows it to control their life. We all hate change. We get into our neat little world and we really don't want it messed with. But we have a nanny state government that is bound and determined to upset the apple cart. So it comes down to doing the true American thing and finding a solution, or just giving up. We all may give up sooner or later. I like to give things a whirl before I go down that road.

    And while we try to deal with what the nanny state is throwing our way, we can "upset the apple cart" a little also by using one or more ideas we throw around here to make a statement and get folk's attention. I am still of the mindset that whatever we do, we do it without any fanfare and publicity. Just do it and throw the public and the political class off balance. Nice neat little targeted actions that cause disruptions in people's lives will do more than any OOIDA or Teamsters sponsored action or some nationwide strike idea. And also, all of us can play dumb about it. "What me? I don't know anything about any boycott of freight in or out of anywhere". The political class uses this "plausible deniability" thing all the time. It is time we use their own game against them. They expect and like strikes. They know how to deal with that kind of thing. But targeted, random, short term boycotts of different cities? That is something they will have trouble dealing with. All I can say, is the one thing positive I learned in the Army that I can use out here, is guerrilla style tactics. Hit and run little attacks. That is what a series of boycotts would be all about. Targeted little boycotts, randomly done, and short term. Just enough to let the folks and the politicians know that we can disrupt their lives. We don't want to be long term about any boycott of an area, because that can backfire on us. If we make it to where we put folks in a real hurt, then we risk having ideas we throw out around here end up blowing up in our faces and we are worse off than when we started.

    And after all, it isn't the average Joe we are ticked off with. It is the hired help lining their pockets in the government. We just need to do little disruptions to let the common folk also know how we are getting the shaft, and side with us. If we tick them off, we don't stand a chance.
     
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  9. RickG

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    Does you hubby have a smartphone ? We use XRS e-logs . They pair to a smartphone . You select duty status on the main screen . It shows available time left on your 11 , 14 , and 70 . When off duty it shows consecutive time off duty . http://eobr.com/xrs-turnpike/
     
  10. Cat sdp

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    Ok I'm confused , the e- log apps for a smart phone are not really an eobr are they? I thought the point of an eobr was to be hard wired into the truck ECM so we can control the bad drivers. I know smart phones can do a lot but they can't be tied into the ECM can they?

    And if they can't an eobr mandate will make the e- log apps worthless ......
     
  11. cowboy_tech

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    XATA has a unit that plugs into the truck's ECU and communicates via Bluetooth to a phone or tablet that can run the app.

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