Transition to EOBR

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Roadrunner007, Mar 6, 2013.

  1. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    And??? If you're on paper logs you record your location (that must match electronic location tags,) your speed can be computed from the locations you list. If you're "hard braking" on a regular basis, eventually the 4-wheeler you're tailgating will be the brake. Your carrier can download percentage idling time from the ECM, and percentage cruise control as well.

    So what?
     
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  3. RickG

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    Only average speed can be calculated from paper logs . E-logs give precise speed every minute .
     
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  4. snowwy

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    what does cruise control have to do with anything?

    the only time my foot gets used is in towns and cities.

    my foot gets cranky if my cruise decides to not function. not to mention a greater risk for a speed ticket. cuz my eyes stare at the road. not the speedo.
     
  5. RickG

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    Some carriers expect a certain percentage of time to be run on cruise control to conserve fuel . I was told my average was below most others .
    I said it's been raining and snowing a lot . I don't use the cruise in rain or snow.
    We had a driver bobtailing in the rain with his cruise on and he hydoplaned and rolled the truck . We had a driver killed when he rearended another truck . I bet he had his cruise on too .
     
  6. ironpony

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    Qualcomm's elog product can provide that information, but there isn't enough available bandwidth in the network to continuously transmit that information for many trucks - that's a huge chunk of data. A carrier can access current status including present speed - less access delay time, which can be several minutes. That just gives them what you were doing X minutes ago. I've seen someone do that... it's a major pain in the ol' southbound end of the northbound donkey to fish that out of the system. The 8-days page does show your miles, driving duration and average speed, and will provide time and duration over a maximum speed parameter. If someone wants to "spy" on you like that, they have to be awfully interested in just you, because they aren't going to be doing anything else.
     
  7. RickG

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    They watch EVERY driver like that . We get monthly e-mails saying which drivers did what
     
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  8. 25(2)+2

    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    What has been said is that E-logs record more information, and these don't yet satisfy the mandated plan, for even more information as stated in the proposed and now 'final' rule for the EOBRs, and even that acronym may not completely cover all of the things the box that is supposed to be coming are intended to cover.


    Top gear percent and cruise control usage aren't anything for anyone other than the bean counters figuring out who they 'think' is driving most and least correctly to maximize the profit over cost for each truck. That 'science' isn't hard and fast.

    I didn't run much in high with a tall geared 13 speed,either, also didn't use the cruise much, and I did great on fuel mileage even though they(shop mechanics) expected it to go boom and they wanted it close when that happened. I had to drive a poorer performing truck to satisfy that thought process of those calling the shots.
     
  9. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    Sure, but they download the data as a snapshot, not continuous monitoring. OTOH, your employer has a legitimate purpose in monitoring your fuel economy.
     
  10. Meltom

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    I didn't read ahead but that isn't exactly true. If you have a peoplenet or qualcomm I could track your position second by second with the correct report. I can also track speeds over a certain MPH and have an email sent to my phone to let me know when a truck exceeds a certain speed. Elogs are just a function of the EOBR, there are several "benefits" that you can sell a company to getting an EOBR, and then eLogs are just one more thing sell. They only help you manage compliance, but only as well as your staff is able to understand. Everyone has a different level of acceptable, mine is high (mostly because I'm a prick) the rest of the staff has a lower standard (mostly because they're .....well I'll just leave that alone in the event they are reading this).
     
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    The Peoplenet kept lots of information, including top speed, rpm, minutes over threshold speeds and other things like that, including high G stopping and possibly swerving or lane departure with the newer equipment available. Printouts were available on anything it stored.

    Having the actual speed not in synch with the speed calculated from the ECM is one thing I noticed that made it unreliable, maybe they have fixed that by now, it really has been years since I have had one that was working as advertised.


    What I didn't like was sitting in another state for a different actual period of time and being accused of being 40 miles from there for a longer period of time, I'm not sure who did the figuring, but it was off.

    A friend used to be a lease op for JB Hunt, and got a call from dispatch while he was sitting at home in West Union, IA with his truck parked by his house, wondering what he was doing in Dallas, TX, as reported by his Qualcomm. Not exactly foolproof on either count.
     
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