Log Question

I was wonderimg the same thing, possibly dogbreath could shed some light as he/she is in the same states i have questions on.

I am going to pick up our new trailer at the end of this week in Fargo. With Fargo being on the line I was only worried about getting a single trip pass through MN. If someone thinks it will be a major issue ill have them drop the trailer over the line, I dont see it being one though.

We are licensed for 80k Farm use in WI. After talking to a permit company they advised that I just needed a single trip permit and single trip fuel permit through MN since we are not apportioned or IFTA.
The one thing I forgot to ask them about was log books. We operate within 150 mile radius which is Wisconsins limit for farmers. I understand normal regs go off 100 miles. We also do not need CDLs or med cards at this time but have them anyways. I am sure we will both need log books for this trip, what I am unsure about is the "back log".I seem to remember many truckers needing 7 days of prior logs with them. However reading the posts about operatong within the radius sounds like you only need to record on/off times. Would I just need to keep a log of the next few days and past couple of days of my time on/off? Then record time driving, sleeper, and on duty not driving the day of the trip?

Thanks.

 

I like the 500mile RADIUS in one state==now what state could that possibly be?
w/out crossing a state line?

 

Oh Wisconsin exception rules, got to love them right? Okay this is going to be very confusing to everyone else so minus Durallymax...just ignore everything I post as it will have NO bearing on interstate drivers at all (only to 150-mile radius WISCONSIN regulations).

Since you are leaving the great State of Wisconsin, you must abide by federal regulations now as Wisconsin has no teeth over Minnesota nor North Dakota. 11-hours driving, 14-hours on-duty and 10-hour off-duty/sleeper is your rules once you cross over the state line here into Minnesota.

Intrastate regulations
Commercial vehicle operators involved in intrastate commerce must maintain a Record of Duty Status. This record may be on a standard logbook or any other form that records the driver's activities for each day. As with the federal regulations listed below, intrastate drivers who operate within a 150 air-mile radius are exempt from maintaining a record of duty status as long as they return to the normal work reporting location within 12 consecutive hours, have 10 consecutive hours off duty between duty tours, comply with the maximum driving hours and maintain time records. Drivers must have in their possession copies of the record of duty status for that day and the previous 7 days.

(page 20) you will also find exceptions as you mentioned for farm in your post. Hope this helps you.

http://www.wistrans.org/cfire/documents/TruckersGuideFinal.pdf

 

Hmmm Texas, Montana, Alaska or nearly every providence in Canada.

 

Really--define radius--then try again

 

Thanks for the response. So basically to make life easier in the event of any issues ( which im sure could arise with that big yellow "restricted" sticker on the plate) it would be easiest for me to just keep a normal log of this weekend and the next few days? I am salaried and have side business work as well so I dont keep an in/out time sheet as my work from both jobs intertwines throughout the day. I dont see it as too much of a hassle to just keep a paper log the next few days.

 

Nothing in the federal regs state that you need to log when you cross a state border, provided you operate within the 100 nm radius and within the HOS limitations.

Local state law may require otherwise though, and don't confuse local law with federal law. You need to adhere to both.

 

You have to be careful there too.

ANY time spent working for revenue HAS to be logged as on-duty. Even if it's NOT for the same employer.

 

That wont be an issue for logging, technically only one legal employer. It's not long term, just for this trip and will be good to know the ropes for any future trips.

 

You still have 60/7 or 70/8 days hours of service you need to be in compliance. Even if you work for billy jo bob for cash cleaning his gutters, technically, that is income producing time and is logged as such.