hard braking

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by joyce, Apr 25, 2013.

  1. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    My carrier is real anal about hard braking . 20 mph ? They had me for one at 8.5 mph . They publish a list at each terminal of all the hard braking incidents monthly . Most are under 30mph , obviously when cut off in backed up traffic.
    I gave them my notice . Two more loads and I'm done. They are losing other experienced drivers also .
    That is the kind of harrassment that kept FMCSA from mandating EOBR's .
     
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  3. Lepton1

    Lepton1 Road Train Member

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    If anyone has a dash cam and could show a video of a typical "hard braking event" I'd like to see what trips off the EOBR. Typically I drive with a lot of cushion in front of me in traffic and try to anticipate and give way to all the roller skates trying to cut me off that I rarely get above 20-30 lbs pressure on brake application.

    Are these HBE's registered by the amount of brake pressure applied?
     
  4. stlvance

    stlvance Medium Load Member

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    my old company had it set to record when there was a 10 mph decrease in speed in under 1.5 sec as a threshhold to trigger a hard braking event. i no longer work there for many reasons but this was one of them. one false reading was bumpy road with in a bobtail but as far as they were concerned it was just an excuse.
     
  5. MoGooder

    MoGooder Light Load Member

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    I think the company I worked for had it set at reduction of speed of 9 mph in 1 second would register a hard brake if the truck was going faster than 20 mph. When the roads were wet we always got messages to slow down because there were too many HBEs.
     
  6. Ghost Ryder

    Ghost Ryder Road Train Member

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    Why did my post get deleted?

    Anyway, HBE's aren't always the drivers fault. Too many HBE's in a short period of time suggests to me that either the sensors need to be recalibrated or there's a fault in the system. As previously suggested, grab yourself a dash cam as I doubt safety will take your word for it.
     
  7. Saddletramp1200

    Saddletramp1200 Road Train Member

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    Hi, this truck is issued to ME. Your QUALCOMM is nice, but it can't see what's going on in the real world. You stop when you have to. Avoid an accident. Office Rats, put your behind in the drivers seat, and decide when to stop.
     
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  8. DirtyBob

    DirtyBob Road Train Member

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    My last company actually used GPS instead of having the truck itself report them. It was based on a ft/sec deceleration that I can't remember what the value actually was. I found it to be accurate as far as recording events that should be recorded and not recording erroneous events. Only had three in two years and they all happened on one day. The funny thing was none of them involved traffic being around me. Stopped for a changing light that I probably would of been legal to make it through before it turned red but I had Highway Patrol behind me and thought I should stop. The last two I decided to do my own skid pad testing in our empty yard after it snowed while bobtail.
     
  9. paul 1052

    paul 1052 Heavy Load Member

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    First of all I fully admit that Im pretty Old School in my ways and look at the new monitoring systems and paper logbook scanners that dont know the rest of the story as unnecessary BS.

    To me it's .... look at my record with this company and tell me where i have a problem, 10 years w/o a chargeable accident, ticket or freight claim... now that you have a new tracking system on my truck that may or may not be reading right Im dangerous to the public?

    Too many College Educated PIAs that dont know which end of a truck to back under a trailer are in Safety Depts and are trusting way too much on too easy to collect information thats not always right....but you cant get them to understand that.

    They were a nuisance 25 years ago and a bigger pain now.
     
  10. DrivingForceBehindYou

    DrivingForceBehindYou Medium Load Member

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    Yes, sir. You absolutely should. Had 2 people calling on me when I worked for a mega carrier. Once for laughing when I passed in a construction zone)))).
    Second for completing a left turn after a light turned red.
    It messed me up and instead of legally doing what I knew was safe and legal I backed into a car that was right behind me in a blind spot!!! the very next time I caught a red when turning left and being already behind the stop line. Walked away with unrecordable but left the carrier afterwards.
     
  11. DrivingForceBehindYou

    DrivingForceBehindYou Medium Load Member

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    A trucker should be able to say in his application that " I reserve the right to use the brakes as hard and often as needed" .
     
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