I *might be interested in investing into a truck & flatbed.
1. Are there any tips when shopping for a truck you guys can give?
2. I hear that its better to go with something that doesnt have DPF. Is that true?
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3. I keep coming back to the Freightliner Columbia. I see plenty of 2006ish ones for a good price. I like the, looks..and Ive driven a couple and I liked the way they felt. Just my personal opinion though. Is there a particular model or features that I would be wise to get since Im in the position to pick and choose what Im going to haul with, may as well get the good stuff from the start.
Thanks a lot yall. I really appreciate any input I can get.
Good first truck
Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by stone4779, Apr 26, 2013.
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oh i forgot to ASK!
4. How hard are they to work on? (2006ish Freightliner Columbia).
Im a mechanic by trade, but on passenger cars and trucks and SUCs etc...not tractors and trailers. But I am hoping that my skills will transfer over nicely to the diesel mechanics/tractor/trailer side of things.
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Yeah simple.. u get what you pay for
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I would stay away from the DEF. Pulling a flat bed, I would go with a mid roof or flat top. A mid roof would have sufficient headroom without the wind resistance. You can purchase a Freightliner for less than some other brands. Most are fleet trucks. I have had very good service from International. Both are relatively easy to work on and parts are readily available. I would stay away from Volvo. They make a good truck, but are not all that easy to work on the engines. If you like KW, a T600 or T800 should get decent fuel economy, but will usually cost more to purchase. One factor that I would check is the weight. Many flat bed loads are rated on the weight you carry. In other words, you are paid based upon the amount of weight you can scale, so keep an eye on what the truck weighs. A lot of flat bedders own Peterbilts. They don't make any more money than the Freightliner or International and most get lower mpg's with the Pete. I have owned both Peterbilt and International. There should be a wide selection of Internationals and Freightliners in the secondary market. Both are used in major fleets. I would check something such as a 9400i or Prostar, if you want an International, depending on the year model. I prefer CAT, but would caution you against buying a truck with any of the brand specific engines, such as Mercedes. Stick with Cummins, Detroit or CAT. They are easier to service and parts are easily available in most shops. If you go with a Freightliner, you could go with a Columbia or Century. I don't recall what year that Freightliner stopped making that model, but it was very popular. The Freightliner Classic is a nice truck, but may not get the fuel economy as the other two Freightliner models. The same with the 9900i, made by International. Think hard about where you plan on running. A 10 speed manual transmission works just fine with most applications. If you find a good deal on a 13 speed, you could also go with that as opposed to going with a 18 speed. You don't need the later and it will be heavier, more expensive to repair and is unnecessary, unless you plan on getting into heavy haul.
I would recommend that you look at a lot of different trucks. Find something that is comfortable for you. What I like may be different that what you may like. Don't get in a hurry. Doing so will usually cost you money. Never fall in love with any truck. Remember, a truck is merely a tool that drivers use to make money. It is no different that a mechanic and his tools. Well, you can look cool in a truck.
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Well said G/Man
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Heres a list of what commercialtrucktrader.com has in my area:
http://www.commercialtrucktrader.co...15&zip=78574&radius=100&sort=geo_distance:asc
Only 53 trucks within 100 miles, but I could always search further. Im willing to go pretty much anywhere in Texas to get it. -
Thanks a lot for the input man. Very good stuff to know!
Im not in a hurry. This is a big deal for me and I actually wont even be driving.
And I totally agree with you on the function VS form. I dont really care what it looks like. I care if its dependable, gets decent mileage compared to whatever else is out there, and can haul what we need to haul, and doesnt cost a lot to maintain compared to the rest too. If it looks cool, well great. But not a deciding factor.
we would be mostly hauling equipment for the oil rigs etc. Nothing too crazy.
Im hoping that $35K should get me a great truck and trailer that I wont have to spend a lot of time repairing etc. Is that about right?Last edited: Apr 26, 2013
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You plan to buy a truck, find someone to drive it, pay him peanuts and make money in the oil fields. You are in for a rude awakening.
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Nope. Drivers going half on the truck. He would be making twice what i would be making. Im just the guy with a good name, good credit, and lots of experience with money. I dont know much about trucking but im sure a can do attitude is better than a "oh well good luck with that"
My father in law and my cousin both drive flatbeds moving rig equipment. They see the money the trucks gettimg. I dont see why we cant get a truck and make some money too?
Im trying to look at all the angles before I jump in obviously. Thats why Im here, posting. To get yalls opinion.
I keep thinking I might be wise to get a reefer as well, in case. My brother shoots a reefer up to New York every week or every other week. Im sure he would love to jump in a newer truck and make some money for both of us. Thats my backup plan anyways.
The MAIN plan though, is to try and get short loads, in state, moving the same kind of stuff they are already moving. They see and talk to the uppers at these places. They go out and drink and eat together etc. We are arranging meetings to talk about it with the guys(at the oil companies) and see if they might be interested in what we have to offer. We just need the loads. Thats the key. Im supposed to go out there soon.
So yeah I understand that the normal everday person probably has almost no chance at making money at this, but I feel like between my brother as backup, my inlaw and cousin...I shouldnt have a problem keeping the truck rolling.
btw I DO have a CDL, and I have driven, I just have other things going on and I cant drive right now. But yes, later I would be driving it as well. I forgot to mention that. Not really important per say, but very helpful.
Im also a mechanic like I said.
Does that sound like a good plan? I mean, Im an accountant, I do taxes, I do credit repair, I do automotive electric wiring, PCM/ECM programming, Im a mechanic(#### good one), I have a CDL, my in law and cousin drive loads out in the oil fields, my brother drives to NY year round (rain sleet hail snow whatver hes a #### good driver), I have excellent credit, and a little cash to fund the whole thing.
IDK man I feel like we might make it. Just need the loads. and the truck to not break. lolLast edited: Apr 27, 2013
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Man oh man, let me give you some advice: Don't run from a deal like you are talking about but try to pass someone that is running.......
Brothers, Cuzes, inlaws don't make good business partners, No one will take care of your business like you would and that goes for the truck too. You can make money with a truck but everyone out there seems to try their best to get your money i.e. brokers, shippers, hired help, lot lizzies. Getting loads is what it's all about and brokers will try to give you a back haul paying loads so untill you learn what's going on that truck eats money. Here is a quote I just read: 1. "Life should not be a journey tothe grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preservedbody, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up,totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!"
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