Bakken Owner Operator Potential Earnings?

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  1. CryloZeus

    CryloZeus Bobtail Member

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    I have been talking to several owner operators, in frac sand division that say they are making $135-$140/hr. I will confirm this soon. I am trying to determine if it is feasible to invest in a new or possibly used truck and pneumatic trailer and sign on with this company as an owner op. is it worth it? Can I make my money back within the year? Etc. at $135/hr within the legal time frames available I can make:

    $11,340/wk gross ($135 x 84 hrs max @ 5 on 1 off and seventh day work after 24 reset)
    $22,680/pay period (bi-monthly)
    $589,680/anannually

    i have never been an owner op, so I am sure I am way exaggerating everything, but take fuel, taxes, insurance, truck payments, maintenance and all other costs into account and I can safely assume the annual return can be reduced by 2/3rds leaving me with $196,560

    Please leave any thoughts or comments below, what do you think?

    BTW, this is in North Dakota oil patch and you don't need your own authority if you stay in state lines. Also down time in sand is pretty significant, but this company pays a minimum demerge pay and guaranteed hours even if sand is real slow, especially in winter time.

    Long story short, any experienced folks in this line of work, is it worth it?


    Thanks, CZ
     
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  3. Charli Girl

    Charli Girl Road Train Member

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    I don't know driver,but from what I hear up in N.D. The roads really tear your truck up.
     
  4. CryloZeus

    CryloZeus Bobtail Member

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    Ys they do. What kind of truck would be best for these roads?
     
  5. Marky84

    Marky84 Heavy Load Member

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    how much does it pay company wise?
     
  6. shovel98

    shovel98 Light Load Member

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    Take a look a the bigger pic not just the wad of cas flashed in your face. Fuel costs upto 50 cents more a gal. Your truck repairs and up keep are going to be double. Tires might last a year along with brake pads and wheel seals. And resale value of any equipment thats been in bakken is alot less couldnt get me to buy anything thats been run there unless dirt cheap. Finding a place to live and park truck is going to cost you alot more just because of the lack of it. Alot of people go there and cant handle it either from lack of work or just cant handle the enviroment of way the other people drive there. Your insurance is going to cost more for they will put you on high risk look at the news feeds for the accidents and deaths in the Watford City, Newtown, Williston area. Its hard work and there is No easy money to be made there otherwise you would have everyone out there driving brand new trucks living in mansions. And better have a sizable cash reserve because oil companies are not knowen to be fast paying expect anywhere from 4 to 6 weeks before checks start coming inn. And i would not take a new truck there too many problems can happen and trying to get truck worked on will take awhile not enough shops around to fix and ones that can are booked. Just keeping it real sorry to burst your bubble but 11000.00 a week can be done but you will work #### hard to do that everything will have to click just right try a little lower a week would be more real.
     
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  7. Charli Girl

    Charli Girl Road Train Member

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    Honestly? "Somebody else's!!! But if you insist AND you have those numbers in writing..I'd get the ugliest pre emission ,but runs great truck I could get my Lil hands on.
     
  8. shovel98

    shovel98 Light Load Member

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    If you want a little pic of what its like read the bia 14 the most expensive road thread and thats just one road on the res. Been on that one more times then i care.
     
  9. ILREDNK

    ILREDNK Bobtail Member

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    I think these figures may be exagerrated a bit for sand hauling. What they've failed to inform you about is all of the wait or "standby" time you will experience. You also need to be very careful with sand and water in the Bakken. A lot of stories about guys not getting paid for 90 days! Take a trip and talk to some of the guys hauling out there to find out the real deal. Is there money to be made out there, absolutely. But, there are a lot of snakes and a lot of pitfalls if you don't know what you're looking for...
     
  10. CryloZeus

    CryloZeus Bobtail Member

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    You have to find the right company to work for and ask other drivers what they think. I would say a bigger company that has a better reputation for paying their drivers and a repair shop that can help O/o's when the going gets tough. Gotta ask around, talk to guys at truck stops and get an overall educated and well explored opinion about what other drivers say. Just use common sense and you'll be alright. CZ
     
  11. CryloZeus

    CryloZeus Bobtail Member

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    Yes the roads tear your truck up and yes in sand and water their can be pretty crazy wait times, that's why I say get your HAZMAT and with some bigger companies that may be expanding into other stuff, you can get cross trained to work in fields other than sand or water and when it gets slow, do other stuff. I know a guy that got cross trained in Liquid Natural Gas and also another one that learned to push cars with a locomotive at a rail yard and he has kept busy with more than enough work throughout the winter and slow seasons. You can keep busy if you don't just stay in one field, but expand into other fields and develop new skills that WILL GIVE YOU AN EDGE over other drivers and make you a highly versatile and diverse employee that everyone can use when stuff slows up. More diversity=more pay and steadier work. Diversify and keep working. If you don't have HAZMAT, GET IT IMMEDIATELY because there are great jobs out there that you will definitely need one for. I remember my CDL school teacher said you don't need HAZMAT, that's pure BS. You should have one if you want to do anything different from OTR. If not, you'll be stuck just hauling sand and/or water or possibly van or other OTR related goods. BTW, I heard that water drivers may be required to get HAZMAT in the future because the water can burn your skin and cause problems. Nasty stuff. Maybe not federally, but some states may require it. Anyway, have a good day my oilfield friends. CZ
     
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