Are EOBR's creating a "new" new breed

Because the 14 hour clock starts the moment you log an on duty status and it doesn't stop until you take an 8 hr break. It resets after a 10 hr break.

 

The problem I have with EOBR's is that they update by the minute instead of 15 minute intervals. I would like EOBR's more if they were like paper in that retrospect.

 

Give birth to a new state trooper?

 

On paper, if you take ten minutes to fuel, you put it down as 15. Electronic logs log it as ten. That adds up to quite a bit of additional available on-duty time over the week. That will be important starting July 1st.

 

You don't log it as 15 if it takes you 10. You flag it. Do what you log and log what you do.

 

Flagging fuel? I don't think that will cut it at a level 3. Just the same, the savings of logging by the minute exceed whatever you might try to get away with on paper.

 

Not exactly, as while on paper I can log and be at home while Eobr guys are screwed because they have to log by the minute.

 

I believe that's why they want EVERYBODY on elogs.

 

Just because you've been doing it one way doesn't mean it's the only way. Tell me the federal regulation that specifically states fueling must be logged on line 4 regardless of the duration.

I have had plenty of level 3's and never received a single violation. I don't run multiple logs either. I can be perfectly legal on one logbook. I wonder what would happen if I said you could flag a PTI and fueling at the same time?

 

I'd say go for it! I could care less how you write your own personal logbook. I'd also say that I've shaved minutes when I had to make up some time for everything to come out right.

I'd also say that eventually there's going to be a DOT cop who is going to bag you for filing a fraudulent log- get into a serious accident, and they'll nail you for that. It's a federal felony. You do realize that some of the flatfeet have come up with the brilliant idea of calling a recent fuel stop, and quizzing them on your activities don't you?

Here's a tip... stay out of Wisconsin.

Good luck!