CAT C15 uprate delema

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  1. EmersonSC

    EmersonSC Light Load Member

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    I'm in the process of getting a 2009 Pete 389 with a CAT C15 Acert paired with a RTOC-16909A transmission.


    The plan is to convert the trans to a 13 speed, and uprate the motor. Right now, it's set at its lowest setting, 435/1550. I'm looking to set it to 500-550/1850.


    Problem, transmission is only rated for 1650 torque, and I'm reading that CAT dealers will not uprate past the transmissions rating, period. According to CATs literature, this means I would be stuck with a max of 475/1650.


    So my questions are:
    Is the 40/100 gain going to even be noticeable?
    Is it possible to uprate to 550/1850 at a CAT dealer?
    Would installing a oil-water cooler (the "only" difference in the RTOC-18909A) allow me to then uprate, and where could I find the cooler?
    Would it be advised to say screw it, and pay the "Diesel Doctor" to do what cat won't, and uprate to the file I want?
     
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  3. Cat sdp

    Cat sdp . .

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    Don't waste your time or money with cat.... They won't go past the trans rating anyway, and their low nox crap is gutless..... Stay with what you have or go aftermarket . Mr H.... is your best bet.
     
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  4. EmersonSC

    EmersonSC Light Load Member

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    Who is Mr. h...?
     
  5. Gear head

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    I have 6 trucks in my fleet with 55ohp 1850 with 1650 clutch and trans no problem with any of them in the past two years.
     
  6. leftlanetruckin

    leftlanetruckin Road Train Member

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    The guy in Effingham can turn it up to whatever you want within reason, and is supposedly very reliable.
    The driver will be the biggest concern of the tranny and clutch, not the motor per say. An idiot can destroy a 18913a with a 400/1650 motor.

    Martin
     
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  7. EmersonSC

    EmersonSC Light Load Member

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    How did you get your engines turned up?
     
  8. Gear head

    Gear head Medium Load Member

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    I flashed them myself.
     
  9. EmersonSC

    EmersonSC Light Load Member

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    Lucky you!

    i know I need to do something, whether its just a flash to a "stock" 550/1850 file, or a tuned one. I know I've browsed around and not sure if I feel comfortable paying $2100 for a flash that also puts me down for weeks on end.
     
  10. Superhauler

    Superhauler TEACHER OF MEN

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    why would it put you down for weeks on end? send ecm to haney and have it back on the truck in 3 days. keep trying you will eventually get him.
     
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