can someone translate this, weight but no scales

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  1. lowrider123

    lowrider123 Bobtail Member

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    I was just in a TA and there was a driver asking how close he was to a town due to he had an emtpy weight and drop of a loaded weight. I'm assuming he had an emtpy and grabbing a loaded trailer, however, he asked about the scales on the way and I mentioned he'll see one but it'll most likely be closed, then he said, no I have an empty weight and getting a loaded weight.


    What did he mean by 'empty weight' and getting a 'loaded weight'? Did he mean emptry trailer and grabbing a loaded trailer? and since he didn't want scales, I'm assuming he's running heavy
     
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  3. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    Often when you load hay and other commodities that pay or bill by weight, the shipper will want you to arrive nearby where the pickup is, get an empty weight BEFORE going to the load site. After he is loaded, he will have to return to the original scales and then weigh loaded so the shipper can know how much commodity that truck was loaded with ... at least I'm assuming that was what was going on.
     
  4. heyns57

    heyns57 Road Train Member

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    He needs to weigh after loading to determine his payload. Usually, a consignee will require weighing loaded and empty on the same scale so they know how much bulk product they are paying for.
     
  5. lowrider123

    lowrider123 Bobtail Member

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    thanks for the reply guys and clarifying, greatly appreciated.
     
  6. Chibob

    Chibob Medium Load Member

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    This is probably right. I have loaded things like carrots or potatoes and those little farm scales are notoriously wrong. If you get an empty weight and then go back after you are loaded you get an accurate weight and you are covered by CAT.
     
  7. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    Yes, those 80 year old grain elevator scales "in town by the rail road tracks, next to the diner" aren't notorious for their accuracy, however if they are used for commerce they have to undergo calibration testing like any Cat scale, however I think cat does their own calibrations with their own private contractors, and they calibrate more often than the state requires I think.
     
  8. Evil_E

    Evil_E Heavy Load Member

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    The way that some drivers pull on/off, back up on and speed across the CAT scales, I'm surprised any of them are accurate.:biggrin_2551:
     
    Jumbo Thanks this.
  9. NavigatorWife

    NavigatorWife Road Train Member

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    Cat also are supposed to stand by their weight tickets if you ever get an overweight violation after weighing at the cat scale also, not so with offbrand or scales at grain mills, etc. Just make sure you hang on to your receipt though/scale ticket.
     
  10. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Yeah, he would be slightly worried about picking up his load, then crossing the state scale on his way to get his heavy weight. BTW, moving companies do this with every pick-up, get a light weight, load the furniture, then get a heavy weight, since they're paid by weight and distance.
     
  11. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    ... right, they go in running on fumes, load the furniture and boxes, then go top off their tanks and then go get a bill weight ... but I don't blame them for trying to get every additional dollar they can. You couldn't pay me enough to do that work and drive too to some of the residential places they have to go.
     
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