We have an N-14 celect 500 in a '94 379 that nobody can seem to figure out its problem. It has a miss right around 900 rpm and is averaging around 3-4 mpg no matter what. Its still pulling good, no miss running down the road, no smoke, and always starts immediately. The problems started when the truck had a pm done and they put the fuel filter on way too tight. We've replaced the filter 3 times since but it still misses. I checked the temperature of each cylinder and #3 (injector replaced recently) is running 50-70f hotter than the rest. So far I have replaced the position sensor and filters again with no change. The shop we took it too said the ecm was bad, replaced it, no change. Then the batteries, no change, and now are leaning towards a burned valve. I think a burned valve would be audible out the stacks at all rpm, not just 900rpm. I also think it would have weak jakes and be low on power. I am leaning towards the #3 injector being hung open or something of the sort but I've been told there is no code for it in the ecm. I don't thing a mechanical failure of an injector will log a code, just an electrical malfunction but I could be wrong. The injector harness was replaced 6 months ago but I don't know about the pass through connectors. Any help would be appreciated.
Need N-14 Help
Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by D389, Aug 13, 2013.
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We have a 95 N14 celect it has always sounded rough at idle the heads were replaced beacuse of water leaks water tubes between hd's. Even with different hd's still sounds same,This unit runs every day maybe there's a way to short out the injectors ?, checking temps on the manifold I try to do it when first started cold. If there's a weak cyl it might miss cold then fire after warmed up,we had a older detroit that had a bent rod from water in the cyl that would miss cold then warmed up would be ok, when torn down at a later date the rod was discovered.
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You are correct that a mechanical malfunction with an injector will not initiate a code or check engine light. If you are thinking an injector is the problem then the best thing to do would be a cylender cut out test and see how each one is performing.
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This one has always idled a little rough and now its worse. Next, I'm going to try checking each cylinder temp once its warmed up and disabling the injectors one by one. I do remember it having a fuel filter that was for a big cam and not an n-14 on it not too long ago.
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sounds nuts but... try removing the belts from the alt and see what happens I had one that would only miss at 1450 the alt was seizing. Had one once that would miss at an idle on say #4 so you could unplug the #4 injector no change. unplug #6 also then plug #4 back in and it would pick up #4 till you plug #6 back in #4 would drop out again. move #4 injector to any cyl and the problem would follow the injector. replace the injector and the problem would move to another cyl say #2. put the old #4 injector back in, in any other cyl and the miss would stay with #2. put a set of reman injectors the truck ran fine for about 15 min and the whole process would start over. tried 6 sets of injectors 3 ecm's injector passthru and injector harness. had an engineer from cummins come out he put a set of injectors in same thing. cleaned the grounds check fuel psi check for air in fuel the engineer finally admitted they did not know how to fix it but they did know of 1 other truck doing the same thing.
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