Will this be held against me?

Wow, what a turn in attitude. Your first post had a somewhat authoritative slant... Like you knew what you were talking about.

This one sounds like a mea culpa.

"Yeah well, it's been so long, and I didn't do it for long... It was complicated, and Since I don't do it anymore."

BTW there is no "one way" or "your way" to run a split break. The rules are there, black and white... Only the driver can jack it up.

You didn't offer up the caveat that you had your own special way of running a split break, your own little rule of never using a 2 break before an 8 break. You just decided to pretend you knew what you were talking about.

 

the 01 didn't hold him up. His lack of understanding his HOS is what held him up and made him late.

There was no need for a repower. There certainly was no need to go the extra out of route miles to Salt Lake (I-84 bypasses SLC enroute to Corrine from Cheyenne.

2 hour break not used properly is two hours lost. Guy got over 12 hours in off duty time. He basically took an extra 2 by taking a 10 after unload.

BTW Aren't you the guy, jdsouza who with his trainer picked up the wrong hazmat trailer and went a couple hundred miles. It wasn't until Springfield before someone other than the two of you figured it out.

i mean it can get complicated when the trailer number on the bills doesn't match the one you are pulling... Who reads those pesky Hazmat bills anyway.

 

For everyone else. I've never seen, read or heard an explanation of the split break rules that didnt confuse or generate a dozen questions from the student. It's never as clear to the student as it seems to the teacher explaining it.

Get yourself a logging app or program. You don't have to use it as your logs, however you can use it to simulate what you want or need to do by logging a split break. It won't let you mess it it up. This is how I learned it backwards and forwards. I can split break all week if I had to and still make my appointments.

key thing to remember is there is still only 11 hours to run for every 10 hours of break (2-8 split) so if you stop short and take your first break you need to be in the distance window you can cover in 11 hours, or you will find yourself taking a third break instead of just the two needed for a split.

example: I can cover 600 miles in 11. If I stop 700 miles take an 8 (or a 2) and start a split, I will later take a 2 (or an 8) and come then up 100 miles short and have to take the first of the split break again before covering that last 100 miles.

 

Correct. The 8 will stop the 14 hour clock but the 2 will not.

And you always count the beginning of your 11/14 from the end of the first of the 2 breaks.

So if you take a 2 at a receiver and an 8 later, you start you 11/14 from when you left your receiver, with an 8 hour pause in the 14 for the second part of the break.

If you take the 8 first, and then take a 2 later, you'll start your 11/14 from the end of the 8 with NO pause in the 14 for the 2 hour break.

Also, you can continually take split breaks, so if you take a 2 then an 8 like in the first example, you can take another 2 later on, and have your 11/14 beginning move forward to the end of the 8.

 

Your link was last updated in 2009.....might want to refer to a more up to date source of information.

 

Sorry chuck, I'm a wannabe and I don't know how walmart works. Is walmart usually slow getting loads off? If they are slow, is it acceptable to take a 2 hour offduty break while you're waiting, or is that against the HOS regs? Just trying to learn here.

 

usd to see there vans all the time picking up garden products. so, figured that's all they used.