Its Official Schneider energy south Texas is closing their doors

Discussion in 'Oilfield Trucking Forum' started by 20yearsinaseat, Sep 17, 2013.

  1. ethos

    ethos Road Train Member

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    What does Mexico have to do with this? Public schools??? Find me an equivalent to Flint, or Detroit in Texas then will talk. The economy in Texas is far better than Michigan and I don't see how you can argue that. Public schools and especially the statistics they produce are wildly inaccurate due to demographics and everyone knows that. Texas has a lot of little illegals that can't speak a lick of English but are a part of the statistics.

    Now I have no real problems with Michigan but economically you just can't compare. Thats not to say that you dont have some valid points but public schools have little to do with intelligence.
     
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  3. MP3 > CB

    MP3 > CB Medium Load Member

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    That's fine, we can stay with it on kind of an academic level. If you think that government has no role whatsoever, then you believe that collusion, price fixing, monopolies and predatory pricing will all just work themselves out. That's just not possible. Without the referee, some kind of monster will take over eliminating fair play so that it doesn't have to be efficient- there is no alternative product to buy.
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  4. MP3 > CB

    MP3 > CB Medium Load Member

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    Let it be known you both started it and won't quit. I'm not taking the bait, however.
     
  5. Gaugeline

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    Could it be that with all the bad service other companies got from them that they put theirselves out of business down in south Texas ? It's not like they had years of experience in the oilfield to begin with.
     
  6. HeWhoMustNotBeNamed

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    I'm wondering about the length of the contract and whether it just ended or is almost at an end. From what I had heard I thought there was another 12 to 18 months on it. But they could have changed their mind in either Office by now.
     
  7. HeWhoMustNotBeNamed

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    There are a lot of threads here to read through but I think this one http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...13-new-job-schneider-dedicated-oil-gas-3.html will give folks a better idea of just how disorganized Schneider was. I'm not attacking anyone for working there. I'm just showing this Eye Witness account of just how bad of service was provided to the Customer. There's no Company that could survive with this kind of service for very long.
     
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  8. dannythetrucker

    dannythetrucker Road Train Member

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    In a nutshell MI is in trouble because places like TX have people who will work more for less, great job TX ! you really showed them union so-n-so's a thing or two ! However, don't complain when your job moves south as well. Does that explain it ?

    I'm not trying to rain on the TX miracle, but really compare it to MI in the 40's and 50's. Sort of the same ? except for the pensions, 40 hour work weeks, working people who actually owned homes, took vacations, bought cars, etc.... Sure, MI will never be what it once was, but neither will TX ! It's not trickling down....
     
  9. greywolfe

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    We are in agreement here. I apologize for any lack of clarity. I wanted to remind those in the discussion that there are no perfect systems and "we the people" are responsible for many of flaws in the system. The same greed and corruption demonstrated by corporations is also inherent in "us". I hope the heat of the discussion did not prejudice you toward interpreting any of my statements as personal attack or derision.
     
  10. JPenn

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    Schneider didn't make it work because they had no idea of what they were getting into. They brought OTR drivers, lots of green ones at that, gave them some PPE, and threw them into a sand can in the woods. They were massively unproductive, poorly trained, and being on E-logs decided to take their assorted breaks in very bad places and made a lot of people with authority angry.

    I've been on the same well pad with them. They couldn't back up, even with a spotter ahead and behind. They got stuck in ridiculous places because far be it from Schneider to spec out a truck with full lockers or appropriate tires for offroad duty. They got the local population irate when a few of them took their 10hr break blocking half of a country backroad because there was no shoulder to pull off on.

    The oilfield is not too forgiving. You get to the well in a timely fashion, do your job (and only your job, and stay out of everyone else's way), and leave in an equally timely fashion. Got it? Good. :)
     
  11. Passin Thru

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    Funny how no one pays what we were paid in the 80s. I made 60K a year driving now you're lucky to make 45. You guys who want to promote Schneider deserve to be working for Walmart in a few years. Then we'll see who laughs. Go on, tell me how we should let everyone cutthroat.
     
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