Why Do We Demonize Team Driving?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by CaliforniaxCowboy, Oct 15, 2013.

  1. CaliforniaxCowboy

    CaliforniaxCowboy Light Load Member

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    Although I tend to respect most the opinions expressed through this forum, I have to say I disagree with the demonization of teaming, especially when it's offered as advice to new drivers. Teaming isn't for everyone, sure. And if you're somebody who enjoys being by yourself and has a fairly strong grasp on the industry and how to drive, teaming probably isn't for you. But a majority of new drivers still don't know jack #### even after they've completed school and training. They get thrown out to wolves after a month or two and most get so scared or frustrated that they quit all together and never return.

    Teaming allows a new driver to learn and experience the ropes with ANOTHER DRIVER. You're never alone out there, and sometimes thats the most important thing. Teaming can also be much safer for new drivers, minimizing the risk of perventable backing accidents at truck stops, terminals and loading docks. It can maximize efficiency, guaranteeing new drivers a slightly higher initial income. At most companies, teams are ahead of solo drivers for load assignments and run more loads further during a pay period. PLUS, many companies offer a higher sign on bonus for teams. If you get along well with your co driver, it can also promote better mental health and minimize the risk of psycho-somatic disorders common with extended periods of isolation. Teaming builds comradery and teaches new drivers to work together to solve problems out on the road. One borrows knowledge from the other, and both are wiser from the experience.

    When two newer drivers team, they learn to adapt to the OTR lifestyle together. OTR is no nine to five, and if you're entirely new to the business, it's going to take more than 30 or 40 days with a trainer to fully adapt. I've talked to new drivers who were terrified of getting off of their training trucks, because they knew they'd be out there alone and didn't yet have the necessary skills or mindset. Think about that. They were literally living in somebody else's truck, under somebody else's rules, making next to nothing...and they still didn't want to leave! The problem is that most of these companies only pay a state minimum wage for training, which incentivizes new recruits to "go solo" prematurely. New driver teaming allows you to upgrade your pay quite significantly (relatively speaking), gain some personal freedoms, and still have the comfort of knowing you're not alone. And lets face it, most of these "company trainers" are little more than new drivers themselves. In my opinion, there are recent CDL graduates who have a better grasp on operating a truck than some trainers do...

    Teaming is NOT for everyone, and this certainly isn't meant to dissuade veteran solo drivers from their lifestyle (Lord knows I couldn't do that anyway). All I'm asking is that we as experienced or somewhat experienced drivers not demonize the idea of running teams when offering advice to new guys. Teaming can be an extremely positive experience for new drivers, but they'll never know that if we discourage them from the start. Why do I feel this way? Because I was one of those new drivers. I was so against teaming because of things I'd been told...and as soon as I got out there on my own, I realized how wrong I'd been.

    There's a huge catalyst in all of this as well. If you don't get along with your teammate, nothing I've mentioned above will apply to your situation. So take time to get to know your prospective co driver and decide if they're the right person for you to work with. If you're a halfway agreeable driver, it shouldn't be hard to find a suitable co-driver. They don't have to be your best friend, but being able to get along peacefully and respect one and other is a bare minimum essential...
     
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  3. 48Packard

    48Packard Ol' Two-stop Shag!

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    Mostly because those I teamed with were demons.

    Seriously, I believe with all my heart that it was easier to team ten or fifteen years ago for reasons discussed in other threads here on TTR....the number of quality drivers (and quality individuals) is decreasing, IMHO, and therefore, the pool of acceptable teammates is diminished.
     
  4. Klatu

    Klatu Road Train Member

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    I've teamed several times. When starting out the stipulation is that when I'm ready to leave, I leave. Also pull over if you get tired. It is simple. I don't mind teaming at all. Team trucks get the best loads. Team trucks are usually the better equipment. Team trucks should only be stopping for fuel, food, and showers. Usually all in on stop. I've always been treated better while teaming. I think the mail service is looking for some teamers. Go for it.
     
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  5. Criminey Jade

    Criminey Jade Road Train Member

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    I don't think teaming is bad necessarily. I'm just not comfortable with it. I'm fine teaming with a husband or really good friend. I don't like the idea of being randomly matched to someone via HR rep. That's why I'm shy about CRST or other primarily team situations. And yes... You're right about teams getting the best loads. If I'm going to trust my life in someone else's hands, I want it to be a skilled, good-natured, responsible, experienced driver. If I'm going to be in a small space 24/7, I don't want it to be with someone I want to strangle.
     
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  6. DrivingForceBehindYou

    DrivingForceBehindYou Medium Load Member

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    some people cant get quality sleep when the truck is moving that's one of the primary reasons that team driving is not for everyone
     
  7. Big Don

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    I think teaming could work very well for a husband/wife team, or a pair of folks who are already friends. But for anyone else, it really is a crap shoot. I've teamed twice in my career. In both instances, I first time eyeballing the partner driver was about 15 minutes before we rolled.

    This was not a trainer/trainee situation, it was a temporary job for both of us. The first driver that I teamed with, wasn't too bad to be with for a week at a time. (We went out on Monday and got back on Friday.) But he screwed up and got canned. The next guy they put into the truck, was a total flipping idiot. If the job had not ended when it did, either he or I would have had to go.

    You just don't always get the chance to find somebody you are compatible with. As for a trainee not being ready to go out on his/her own, then obviously the trainer either wasn't doing the job, or the trainee either needed more time or was just not gonna make it.

    Teaming CAN be great. But it can also be a total nightmare.
     
  8. crzyjarmans

    crzyjarmans Road Train Member

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    I don't think teaming is wrong for everyone, Just not for me, I tried it once with a good friend, ended in disaster, So, teaming just isn't for me, Now, my wife has rode along with me from time to time, Don't want her as a team driver, cause you sleep while co-driver drives, and vise-versa, I enjoy spending tons of time with my wife
     
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  9. mike54

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    Getting ready to go team driving next week. Hope it works out for me goin with a previous co worker.
     
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  10. TruckerPete1990

    TruckerPete1990 Road Train Member

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    Team driving sucks. You got to work ur home times around everyone else's plans. You got to try and sleep while driving down the road and hope they don't stink. Or nasty in anyway teaming I've found works best for husband and wife teams.
     
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  11. milesandmilesofroad

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    I team and while it's true that it's with my son, I'd fire him in a second if he didn't pull his weight and run hard.

    Teaming is not for everyone is a understatement. It's hard when two work ethics collide. It's best when you go out and find your own partner as opposed to one the company finds for you.

    I don't know if I agree that the best loads go to teams because at CRST were an all team enviroment but I can't speak for other companies. If your on percentage of load pay I guess it's a concern but at cpm your money is tied to loads with the highest mileage haul per load
     
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