DOT doesn't require ASE certification (I'm sure you know that).
Depends on what you were attempting to repair on your brakes, as to them laughing at your company certification card.
For minor & typical brake adjustment (manual adjusters) that carrier's card is "DOT" sufficient. (unless they clearly see you're hacking the operation)
Adjusting Brakes
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Grymm, Oct 27, 2013.
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Knowledge is Power. Had Maryland try that scare on me. Didn't work.
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One employer asked for a summary of my training or experience adjusting brakes. This was noted in my personnel file (for their protection).
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Wow alot more folks than I thought actually adjust their brakes. I've been driving for 4 and a half years and until this last company (not otr) I didn't know how to and was discouraged from messing with them. And until this last company I had only had 1 minor brake issue (brake dragging, from what i recall it was a manual slack adjuster on an old trailer while the other three on it were automatic and apparently you cant mix them) so I had never needed to get too in depth with them.
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like i said.
brake adjustment is the easiest thing next to adjusting mirrors.
the wrench will only go ONE way. unless the slack is completely messed up. and it will turn really easy. untill it hits the drum. then it gets hard and that's when you stop.
beats the heck out of sitting around, wasting time somewhere. costing the company money for a road call.
and yes, i'm ASE certified. for cars.
drivers that are out to make it sound like a difficult task. are drivers that just really don't care to do it, or learn it.
you learn to walk, talk, and poop. but your too afraid to crawl on the ground. put a wrench on a bolt and turn the darn thing.
technically, your supposed be to under there looking at the things anyways. along with the rest of the trailer under there. you also get to see if things move around while your under there adjusting that bolt. like worn bushings.
your eyes, the only tool you need. to see that your brakes are out of adjustment. because there will always be a gap between the shoe and the drum.DoneYourWay Thanks this. -
With the advent of self-adjusting slack adjusters, most companies will discourage you from "messing with them".
Trouble is, many drivers don't know what "to do" and "not to do" when it comes to slack adjusters or brake adjustment.
Back when manual adjusters were commonplace, knowing how to adjust brakes was common, and straight forward.
I still know many drivers who don't know exactly how automatic (self-adjusting) slack adjusters work, so don't feel bad.
Here's a good video showing how they work.
IMPORTANT: They only are able to "adjust" if your brake application is fairly hard (higher than approx 80 psi pressure).
Easily done a couple times a day, while stopped.
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Thanks KW, like I said I had never had to mess with them and was discouraged from messing with them. Then I got on with this company and had issues with the brakes that the worthless mechanic wouldnt fix (just pretended everything was sunshine and buttercups). Then they say I'm supposed to fix them and how did I get a CDL without knowing how to adjust them. I'm not real sure if the brakes on the vehicle at this company were manual or automatic. All I know is they were jacked. Drivers side steer the adjustment mechanism actually broke so you couldnt adjust it and it pulled heavily to the right when you braked. The rear can on the drivers side drives broke off (someone else was driving and highsided it apparently dented the fuel tank, think it may have also broke the can off) and was welded back on. One of the brakes on the lowboy was so out of adjustment that it rolled the cam (didn't know what that meant or how that could happen and one of the guys tore into me for asking).
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If the brake was cammed over that means that the shoes were so thin the s cam reached the end of its travel and turned over backwards making you brakes work backwards on that spot. Who ate you working for if you don't mind? Or if you want PM me.Logan76 Thanks this.
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There are still lots of us out here who started driving in the 80's and 90's. Adjusting brakes was as common as fueling up or washing windows. Not many self adjusters at the time. I learned to adjust brakes before I ever bumped a dock.
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Why would any driver put a wrench on an automatic self-adjusting slack adjuster? Just curious.
Personally, I won't put a wrench on a self-adjuster. (with 1 very rare specific exception)
Reason is simple. If it requires a wrench, that means the self-adjusting slack adjuster's internals are defective.
If a part is defective, the only proper thing is to change the part.
If it didn't hold it's setting via automatic, it won't hold it's setting via manual.
If it's known you, as a driver, had put a wrench to an automatic slack adjuster, then get into a wreck...
you can literally kiss your trucking career goodbye.
(Unless you can prove in court you had documented certification that showed you were 100% qualified and your actions were 100% proper)Numb Thanks this.
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