Hi all,
Got pulled in the other day at the POE here in WY and they had a long line of trucks, all going over the scales. Normally, they just greenlight people through the scales, but to park and bring in their permits, if they get a redlight to come in at all. Well, I got up there, got on the scale and because it was my lucky day...the stop light didn't turn green, or yellow...just stayed at red for about 20 seconds to where I was getting nervous because nobody else was stopped for that long. Then a DOT trooper came out and told me they were going to do a level three inspection on me.
Well needless to say, I freaked out as I had no idea what that was. He asked for my permit book and logbook right then and there, and then told me to park it and bring in my bills of lading, trailer registration, dot med card, license...and I think thats it.
I parked, brought in what he wanted and he went over my logbook and I got a violation for not having grid totals in the number grid on the right side of the log page...for two days.
Now the grid totals (never heard them mentioned as grids or whatever...so in case anyone doesn tknow) is where you write the number for whatever your lines were on the logbook....ie, if you had 4 hours of driving on line 3, youd put 4 hours and so on in those grid boxes.
Well he dinged me for two days. The 25th and 26th. Usually, as I write my logbook and get caught up, I don't sit and crunch the numbers in my truck...I just fill out the important stuff (like basically everything else) and get on my way.
Now heres my question. He dinged me for the 26th which is a tuesday, and I drove then so I can see that part. But he also got me for the 25th which was part of a multi-day logbook entry for Sun and Mon which were my days off....I had no grid totals. But heres the thing...For my multi-days off, I usually fill out the top part of the logpage, write a line across line one from midnight to midnight and call it good...I never write numbers in. The reason I don't is because I was never told what to do in case I took a few days off. Ie, around the holidays, we had like four or five days off...over 100 hours...and I wasn't sure how to write that in the grid as they don't give you five boxes, only four. My comp has never said anything so I never thought anything of it.
So I guess the jist of the question is...from now I will just put the numbers in for my multi days off (zeros)...but how do you write that if you have over 100 hours off in a row?
my logbook violation...question
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by ziggystyles, Mar 1, 2008.
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I just put a line like you said from 12 to 12 and write in 24 on the line and call it a day. I do that for each day off.
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Or, you could do that, write "96", and call it four days. I do that sometimes to save paper. Safety dep't says it's ok.
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If you take multiple days off; lets say beginning midnight on the 24th and ending midnight on the 26th, you can log it all on ONE page. You write ALL dates on the log sheet and on line #1, write 48. But you MUST "total" the total times on lines 1 thru 4 and they MUST add up to 24 (or multiples of 24 if you take multiple days OFF Duty). You can long any number of days off in this manner.
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Yes you may LEGALLY Log multiple days OFF DUTY on one log sheet, as long as the total time "Off Duty" equals a multiple of 24.
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DOT does not state this very clearly however it says you should total your hours for each 24 hour period. Well DOT simply allows you to put the extra days off (MUST BE OFF DUTY ONLY, NO LINE 2,3 OR 4 time INCLUDED)
so therfore I and many log programs say you should only put 24 for line 1 and then for the total hours should also say 24 hours.
In the remark section write whatever you want (well like off duty 96 hours from 2-1 to ?)
The point is there is only 24 hours in one day , they simply allow you to fill out that one log for several days (depends on company policy also)
You should be totaling your hours every day on your log at the end of the day
Here is another example of DOT is cracking down on the regulations that are required. Now some may have interpritated (sp?) them incorrectly but the point is they are getting this picky
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KEEP YOUR LOG BOOK UP TO DATE AND FILL OUT ALL THE BLANKS and I bet you see you won't be picked on
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Hey Zig....yeah man you have to crunch the numbers and write them in everyday or they will ding you.
Even if multi days off, you just put a line all the way across line 1 and put 24 in the box on the right. Then you write below something like,
Off Duty
Rock Springs, WY
03/01/08 - 03/03/08
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You don't multiply the hours by the days. Just put 24 in the off duty and 24 in the total at the bottom of the grid. In the comments area you put your dates and some books have a place in the bottom right corner where you can put the number of days off including today. I've only use that part once where I was home for 5 days. Usually I will do a seperate page for each day. We have scannable logs and they are numbered so I like the number and the date to match.
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This is how "DriversDailyLog" records multiple days off on one logsheet.
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I did it just like roadkill shown except I'd put the full address of the main office in the block and just not the city name. Another item that can get you (among the many others) is signing the log in your legal name. I read somewhere, but don't ask me where, that the signature had to match your drivers license.
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