E-log users love it or hate it

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by skinnytrucker79, Nov 25, 2013.

  1. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    Webtech wireless has an easy driver interface. Not sure the pricing but I would assume they're reasonable.
     
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  3. missjhawk

    missjhawk Medium Load Member

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    Like I said my dm told me our logs show in, around, or miles from the nearest city we are in meltom u may work in logs but my company logs look nothing like what u so graciously depicted. This is our 2nd years on elogs and over half of company still use paper logs. Guess my company went the cheap way because they are a small company. So as for u so no it all come work with our lady that do logs. She work with 600 trks i'm sure she would appreciate your point of view.
     
  4. STexan

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    Well, I look at like this. I try and drive in the window of 5:00 AM to 5:00 PM as much as possible. I haul refrigerated, so appointment times are literally all over the clock but mostly fall in the 5:00 to 17:00 range for us. I can screw myself out of a 10, and log a midnight unload on duty that takes 3 hours, blow a break, and try and drive nights and sleep days (I simply can't rest during the day, period) until I get my preferred SAFE schedule back, or I can be Mr Wild Maverick and unload during my 10 hour break, making sure not to restart my clock with excess speed/distance.

    I can assure you, I'm safer driving during the day (especially in the winter) with a less then restful 10 hour break then I am driving between the hours of 10:00PM to 7:00 AM for several days trying to get back on track. Guess what I'm going to do in those cases with a late night unload appointment that gets mixed in with "reasonable" appointments? If you or they want to crucify me for my reasoning, then so be it.
     
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  5. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    I dont' care what your DM told you, they all use GPS technology. So while what your DM sees on the dispatch system may show one thing rest assured there is better and more accurate information being stored somewhere else.
     
  6. snowwy

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    i don't like being bossed around. plain and simple as that.

    my laptop does a better job. and doesn't tell me what to do.

    i shouldn't have to answer to a box becuase i'm 20 miles from where i wanna go. or if i have to bounce 100 miles into town. OFF DUTY for the weekend.
    or, if i want to drag my trailer, 700 miles home, without a load. that WOULD be personal conveyance. or, what ever reason may be that i want to drive MY truck. OFF DUTY.

    it may be a commercial vehicle. but the government don't pay for MY truck. I DO.

    they don't tell us when we can or can't drive our car. or ride our motorcycle. and those vehicles CERTAINLY don't get inspected or harrased like trucks do. yet, those vehicles cause more crashes.
     
  7. DsquareD

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    I know the company tracks all this stuff pretty closely, so I don't drive outside of legal hours. However, there is a once a week provision in the law to use a 16 hour window but how does one use that exception on e-logs? When I asked I got a less than satisfactory answer quoting local driving rules and decided it wasn't worth arguing.

    The company doesn't like split sleeper either, but it is a legal option that works quite well with e-logs. I would still like to have the 16 hour choice available to me on the rare occassion that I may need it.

    I will say this though, the only time I ever exceeded my HOS was on paper and was due to an error rather than deliberate. So the e-logs have so far kept me inside the law with no errors.

    I also like having a GPS so I can compare ETA to my chosen stopping point with the e-log countdown timer. If something like bad traffic or a detour keeps me from getting there I simply adjust to one of the other stopping points that I scoped out ahead of time and go there.
     
  8. Cat sdp

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    16 hour deal is only for guys that return to home terminal every night. No roadies allowed ........:)

    That's how it was explained to me....
     
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  9. Meltom

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    The key to anything that you think may apply to an exception on your elogs is document, document, document. Don't get me wrong, 78% of the documentation that I see doesn't actually remove any violation or meet the criteria for adverse conditions, but it (almost)never hurts. Unless it's clearly a lie, then you'd be better off with no documentation than untruthful documentation. For example, guys sending in their arrive at consignee call, noting it on the logs, then switching to PC and delivering the load.
     
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  10. missjhawk

    missjhawk Medium Load Member

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    I really don't care what u think I no what my computer shows unless u work 4 the company I work 4 u can't say or not say what my qualcomm shows. U are not all knowing on logs u just no what yo company have I HAVE SEEN MY LOGS ON QUALCOMM AND IN SAFETY OFFICE I NO WHAT THEY SHOW!!!! and who are u 2 tell somebody what's right or wrong u don't no everything. U can comment on what your company require all day but u don't no jack about the company I work 4. They tell us what they will and want allow if it fall in their guidelines they don't care NO VIOLATION!!!!! My company tells us how fast.we can go so our computer want pick up us driving!!!!
     
  11. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    I'm an #######. Deal with it. Fact of the matter is what you described is log falsification and crazy stupid and dangerous. Why on earth would you travel down the road at 10 MPH for an hour to not have 7 minutes of violation. You show me a world where that makes sense and I'll tell you that you are right. In the mean time I know for a fact that the Qualcomm will record GPS positioning in very much the same way as I showed earlier because I worked with it for 5 years and used GPS positioning when I audited logs using that system as well.
     
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