I bought my first truck in 1974. The one thing I have learned in all those years is not to come off as self righteous. Just because I have a different philosophy about how to run my business (and my life) doesn't make me a less worthy person.
Cheating on logs
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by dogtrucker, Dec 6, 2013.
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I am sorry I missed this earlier the 2hr break can be off duty or on duty but it does not stop the 14 hr clock only two things pause that clock on is an 8 hr sleeper birth the other pauses and rests it and that is 10 hour with atleast sleeper birth unless at home or some place that give you a solid sleep such as a hotel terminal with cots or such then no need for sleeper birth just straight 10 off.
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Exactly! All the old dogs on here know all the tricks. But this isn't yesterday anymore. Truck driving is built around habits. You can either have good ones or bad ones. Eventually it will catch up with you. Then all them few extra dollars you made will quickly be taken away from you. Them tickets aren't cheap. Neither is a CSA score where no one will hire you. Then you are earning less than if you played right in the first place. Learn to operate in their world and not yours. Drivers have proven profitable on elogs. If they can do it so can you.
If you really must know get you a pair of tweezers to pull them little Florida hanging chads out after you rip a page out. Then you condense and manipulate as you rebuild your logbook around your time stamps. A falsifier knows how to change his fueling habits and other time stamps to accommodate his methods. Again that is old and retired technology. I could teach you but then I have to report you!
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Federal Stencil book taught me. The DOT does not like colors . Draw Stick figures and use at least 3 books to make a stop motion flip picture recreating the 1910's actors. Tried the artist route, Still a driver. Never hurts to try...
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Maybe the folks on here suspect YOU could be D.O.T. in disguise getting info on drivers technics for working e-logs.
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Thought the same. who else tries to convince a trucker forum in profile that they are a trucker/username lol ?!
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Here's my $.02, if a driver needs to run the extra miles to make more money and run illegal to do so then it is the driver himself that is causing his check to go down in the first place, if everyone ran legal and demanded more for it then it wouldn't be long until the rates came up and we could all make $$$
doing it
the problem is that for every driver wanting more $$ for less or legal work there's 50 who will under cut him or take the load he is trying to get to come up on with rates
Same with fuel, how many hours do you think we would all have to park until prices came down??? or park to get California to change their rules??
not many but again there will be way more chasing the $ than those who would see that if we worked together for the cause that the $ would be $$$ in short time, I believe hours not days or weeks would get this done, and it is nothing against the company you work for as it would all roll downhill to the consumerKW Cajun Thanks this. -
Swift JB hunt CRST US xpress Schneider would swoop in lower the rates anyway. No win brother

Agree 100% but companies listed above lower the rates. -
Gonna save this as I was not endowed with the gift of gab. I have tried to explain that feeling several times couln't get it across. ThanksBoardhauler Thanks this.
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That's not really what I was talking about. In order to do what I am suggesting, each day when you start work, your log is totally legal and up to date for where you are.
What I was talking about is this. Drivers on the east coast know what a ***** it is going around DC and Baltimore during rush hour. When I'm going up I-95 after 2 pm I usually stop at the scale rest area in Dumphries and take a nap until 7 pm, and then go through. I feel better, and the traffic is much better. So, up until I stopped, my log was right on. If I log that 5 hour break, it screws up my log, so instead of logging my stop, I do nothing. Later, when I stop to take my break, I log as if I drove straight to the break point. I still get my whole break, (at my age, I want my sleep, and I get it), but I actually split it. So, I'm still running legal hours, but the split break requirements sometimes won't work. I'd rather take a short nap and wait out the traffic than drive through a major city in late afternoon fatigued. That's my bad time. That and driving into the morning sun.Last edited: Dec 7, 2013
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