Cheating on logs

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by dogtrucker, Dec 6, 2013.

  1. dogtrucker

    dogtrucker Road Train Member

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    I think you went over my head there but it sounds clever ...'ppreciate the effort :yes2557:
     
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  3. Meltom

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    I'd rather take snowblind as a driver, who openly admits to not being compliant over a driver that thinks that accidents are inevitable. I can work with non compliance, and in some instances I can condone it, I'd prefer it logged a specific way but that's for a later argument.

    Your job is to keep as safe as possible, there is no reason that eventually you WILL have an accident.
     
  4. dogtrucker

    dogtrucker Road Train Member

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    And yet, people have crashed in to me - even while I was parked! But with a clean record and no tickets for almost 3 decades a little self-confidence is justified.

    It seems you are saying you have gone your whole life without anything bumping into you. If that is true, it is partly due to statistical luck. I'll just trust you have a layman's common-sense grasp of randomness and probability. But maybe you don't and that is why you think there is something to argue about here. A lot of people just did not pick that up during their education and that inevitably leads to some strange statements.

    My favorite, in this vein, is when G. Bush lamented the (for him) troubling fact that "50% of American students are below average"

    ...get it? if not then check this out http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/content/93/23/1768.full
     
  5. Lepton1

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    Dogtrucker, gotta luv statistics. I think the point that Meltom and I are both trying to make is that probability of getting into an accident is a function of behavior, not a random draw. In the instances where you were hit while parked, were you parked in a safe location? Having someone clip you when you were in the middle of a row at a truck stop is one thing. Getting hit because you were parked in a "No Parking" area at a truck stop or parked next to the road on an exit ramp is another.

    FWIW I have a minor in statistics. How about you?
     
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  6. Roadmedic

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    Here is a picture of the real world. Explain you way of avoiding it.

    Happened in Racine WI with only 4 inches of snow.

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  7. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    Proper following distance and speed, then when you recognize that others are not going to drive safely park it. Too many drivers think that they're not going to lose traction either because of 4 wheel drive or weight. When conditions get too dangerous to driver you need to make a decision to either get off the road, or back out of a group. Your following distance should increase greatly in winter weather conditions.
     
  8. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    I drove over 130,000 miles last year.

    You probably would not want me then. I am quite aware that accidents will happen. Kind of like when the moose ran out of the shadows of the trees and in front of me. Still hit it.

    Other than that, been over a million miles since the last one.
     
  9. Lepton1

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    ^^^ That's easy. Have at least 8 seconds following distance in those conditions and slow waaaayyyy down. As soon as you see tail lights coming on ahead start gently braking and deploy 4 way flashers to alert drivers behind you.

    The only way these multi-vehicle pile ups happen is because everybody is tail gating. By definition they don't have enough following distance to stop before colliding with the vehicles in front.

    If I had a dollar for every trucker I see tail gating I'd be a rich man.
     
  10. dogtrucker

    dogtrucker Road Train Member

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    tail gating. It seems that about half of truckers tail gate
     
  11. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    Do you consider accident's inevitable? I bet that you take precautions and try to prevent them. Clearly accidents can and do happen, but if your thought process is that they are inevitable than, no I wouldn't want you.
     
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