Cheating on logs

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by dogtrucker, Dec 6, 2013.

  1. "Hang - Man"

    "Hang - Man" Heavy Load Member

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    It all seems so crazy to me that you drivers have to fret making it to some place to rest before some buzzer or what ever happens starts dinging. When you could have just rolled on to another exit wide spot whatever to get to the next place.
    I have to assume there are drivers close to tears when the time starts counting down knowing they will be punished by their own company or DOT.
    I will be honest my paper logs where never up to the proper time line, and not because i was trying to drive for 24 hours, i just wanted a little leeway on where to stop. maybe i was being stupid but i figured what could the fine be or i figured they wouldnt have come down hard on me for this --i was never pulled in and checked.
     
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  3. 25(2)+2

    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I was minutes ahead of a bad one on the Borman going the other way (Eastbound) at Cline. The gapers backed up westbound for 5 miles almost immediately, the traffic is very heavy westbound in the early morning. It was getting hairy enough that I took 6 across from 94 to 57 to get away from the heavy, high speed stuff, too much difference in speed and confidence among drivers. It wasn't really bad, but there are accidents on dry roads from misjudgements and a little snow makes it much worse.


    Lots of mishaps today, thankfully nothing like the bumper cars that was going on up in Wisconsin on Monday and again today.
     
  4. mustang190

    mustang190 Road Train Member

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    Thats why their called "Steering Wheel Holders".
     
  5. 25(2)+2

    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    [QUOTE="Hang - Man";3709546]It all seems so crazy to me that you drivers have to fret making it to some place to rest before some buzzer or what ever happens starts dinging. When you could have just rolled on to another exit wide spot whatever to get to the next place.
    I have to assume there are drivers close to tears when the time starts counting down knowing they will be punished by their own company or DOT.
    I will be honest my paper logs where never up to the proper time line, and not because i was trying to drive for 24 hours, i just wanted a little leeway on where to stop. maybe i was being stupid but i figured what could the fine be or i figured they wouldnt have come down hard on me for this --i was never pulled in and checked.[/QUOTE]

    I'm still on paper, and I don't fret about a few seconds, it just bugs me to have to drive 40 miles each way to park at a so called safe place with services. I know of some bad places too, which are good places to avoid.
     
  6. DsquareD

    DsquareD Road Train Member

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    Very interesting thread.

    Back when I was on paper, I was reminded by my manager that there was still a computer and a GPS tracking device onboard, so if I made an error on paper and it didn't match the electronics I would get whacked anyway. So now with e-logs at least everything is in sync.

    Unless you have a very old truck that does not have any kind of electronics you are only fooling yourself by pretending that there is no way to verify what you write.
     
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  7. Dinomite

    Dinomite Road Train Member

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    I can't speak for all E loggers, but for me. Beating the buzzer is just a fun game you can play with your pride. If you beat it. You are super trucker. If you don't you need to step up your game up. Most companies just want a brief explanation of why you went over. Most don't even give you a slap on the risk, but I guess if you are constantly going over. You will get in trouble. Guess it shows you may have issue's with trip planning. I even forgot to send my explanation, and all I heard today was bring your truck to the yard so you can get a new truck. So Guess I'll see if I can't put 818 plus miles on the new truck. Sad part is the new truck is an automatic and has a def tank. Trucking is getting so complicated. Glad my logs can do the thinking for me :)
     
  8. 379exhd

    379exhd Road Train Member

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    That is true...where was your avatar taken? Looks about like my Pete right now snow covered
     
  9. 25(2)+2

    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I looked at the surveillance monitors at a place I picked up at, now we don't ordinarily get to see that, but they could tell when you arrived and when you back in. They can't tell when you get there if you park before getting there for minutes or hours, or even a day or 2. No nanny on my truck or trailers but the manufacturer seems to know when it shuts down due to mechanical trouble and roughly where (something like Onstar?)and the phone isn't going to place it to the second, although you get photographed quite often along the major roads, scale houses, and on and on. We get scanned going in and out of the plant.
     
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  10. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    It's funny the guys and gals who try to hide things on a truck with elogs. The latest thing I'm hearing is that my Elogs quit working, turns out they just quit using them. The funniest part, to me anyways, is that it still tracks all of their movement and auto changes to driving when the drive and to on duty when they stop. I'm sure they'll say it's not accurate, but it's funny how it matches up with fueling and arriving at customers.
     
  11. joseph1135

    joseph1135 Papa Murphy

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    Lets be honest about one thing. We will all be on elogs. PATT CRASH And the others will make sure of that. The big companies will also make sure of that. It's not mandated ( as some say 50+ trucks) that's a trucker story. But we will all be on them in the couple of years. I didn't want them either. I fought against them. But then I saw a big plus to them. I know I can run. There are drivers who can't compete with me because they won't run that hard. In a way, the EOBR seperates the drivers from the steering wheel holders. You can see who manages their time and runs. And you see who falls flat on their face. That's a huge benefit to real drivers. Of course I would love more flexibility. But that's not in the cards on these yet. I have to do my job the best I can. It has yet to bite me because I plan the hell out of my day.
     
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