Running Over 14 Hours

He/she is incorrect and you "if I read your understanding correctly" are mis understanding somewhat also. Lets start with the 11 & 14 hour rule basic rule

11 & 14 hour rule:

Once you enter lines 3 or 4 "after a 10 hour CONSECUTIVE BREAK" count over 14 hours. See my example of a log image. So my 14 hour ended # 2:00 pm. I can NOT DRIVE passed that 14 hour mark unless I 1) have an 8 hour SLEEPER break & 2) say I am going to use the exception of the rule and SPLIT BREAK.
So if you get 7.75 hours of sleep during your 14 hour period, you still have to stop that truck REGARDLESS of ANY situation and take a 10 hour consecutive break. So NO anything less than 8 hour breaks are counting against your 14 hour clock.

Now you said the only way to drive more than 11 hours is for advherse weather issues etc. No my example shows another legal way without any traffic issue's etc.

The adverse issues is usually going to be more of a traffic jam reason and that only allows you 2 extra hours of driving. It does not allow you to go passed the 14th hour (I believe you have that down pat.



The 70 hour rule, well if you work 10 hours a day you are right on the 8th day you do not have any hours to work! so you must sit all day and wait until midnight. I hope the below chart explains it ok?


Day 1 (3/7) 10
Day 2 (3/8) 10
Day 3 (3/9) 10
Day 4 (3/10) 10
Day 5 (3/11) 10
Day 6 (3/12) 10
Day 7 (3/13) 10
Total last 7 days 70
Day 8 (3/14) NO hours available until AFTER MIDNIGHT ON DAY 8
I used todays date to hopefully get the understanding across and the day. Did it help anyone?

 

I forgot to attatch the log image I wanted to do on the above reply.

Here it is

Actually I decided to do a day 1 and day 2 So pay attention to the file name ok .


Click on the image and it will be normal size "I hope"

 

There is several threads already discussing split breaking check out the sticky threads in this forum "trucking Industry Regulations" the first discussion thread. Plus we discussed it not long ago and I posted several examples.

But see if this also helps clear things up between you two! Tell him I have been doing logs for 20 years so I am not lieing or incorrect.

I may misunderstand your debate with your partner however, let me know if this all doesn't answer your ?'s/debates

These are 2 different examples it is not day 1 & day 2.

One is with the 8 hour break first and the other is with a 2 hour break "or longer" and you will see if I stop for 2 hours or more I STILL have to shut down at the end of my 14 hour mark! I have 2 options at the end of my 14 hour and that is 1) 10 hour consecutive break or 2) take an 8 and start split breaking.

I also included one that showed an 11 hour violation when split breaking. Becasue the driving time prior to an after the 8 or 2 hour break can not total more than 11 hours.
There was no 2 hour break to go with the 8 hour