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2014 FMCSA Study results

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Green-eyed Lady, Feb 17, 2014.

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  1. Feb 17, 2014 #1
    Green-eyed Lady

    Green-eyed Lady Light Load Member

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    The Trucker newspaper reported the results of the FMCSA study re: new HOS regs.

    2 nights of sleep for the driver was deemed the best to combat fatigue so there will be no change on the two periods of 1am - 5am required on the 34 hr. restart. "For the SMALL percentage of truckers that average up to 70 hrs. of work a week, two nights of rest is better for their safety and the safety of everyone on the road".

    The study did not deal with the split sleeper issue nor did it deal with the 168 hr. mandate on 34 hr. restarts.
    So, the study was incomplete in my opinion.

    Of the 106 drivers used in the study, "44 were local drivers, 26 were regional drivers, but only 36 were OTR drivers".
    Of the 106 vehicles used in the study, "44 were day cabs and 62 were sleeper berths".
    Of the 106 drivers, 103 were company and 3 were O/O.
    Of the 103 company, only 7 were reefer and 3 were dry van; the other 93 were dedicated route or flatbed, or intermodal.

    So after all this waiting, the study only addressed PART of the new HOS regs...
    AND...the study compared apples to oranges in regards to day cab vs. sleeper, and LTL vs. OTR.

    Our government at work, ain't it grand?

    Well, that's my 2 cents.
    I'd like to hear how others view this study results.
     
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  3. Feb 17, 2014 #2
    tsavory

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    Not that I agree with any of this they are not addressing any problems but fine 2 nights of sleep is good for you whatever but what the heck had 53 hrs off at the house and still no reset there needs to be a clause in there that addresses that should get a reset for anything over 48 period.
    and like you said day drivers vs OTR is night and day differences. dedicated allows a lot better planning and set up you know when and where you will be at certain points not the same as waiting to get the next load from who knows where to timbucktwo plus on a dedicated you get to know the shippers and receivers and they tend to take better care of you than just some truck pulling in.
     
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  4. Feb 17, 2014 #3
    Mev

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    The study is weighted in order for the FMCSA's original decision to stand.

    Lets see them survey 2000 + OTR drivers and publish the results.
     
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  5. Feb 17, 2014 #4
    25(2)+2

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    I see cherry picking the data to make it fit what they want, but I'm very suspicious of statistical studies.

    The 2 periods from 1 to 5 is senseless to anyone used to driving at night, and in the home terminal timezone can be skewed a long ways from actually being from 0100 to 0500 as anyone driving coast to coast could tell you.
     
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  7. Feb 17, 2014 #5
    lv gn

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    they would just spin it to make it come out in their favor anyway
     
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  8. Feb 17, 2014 #6
    gentleroger

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    Surveying 106 drivers out of more than 2.5 MILLION trucks on the road is pitiful. No market researcher worth his salt would try presenting that information based off of such a small sample size.
     
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  9. Feb 17, 2014 #7
    25(2)+2

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    They say it's adequate so it's adequate, I guess.:biggrin_25526:

    They also posted the 'study' after making the rules, and not everyone who did bother to be elected is happy about how that ship(FMCSA) is being run.
     
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  10. Feb 17, 2014 #8
    tsavory

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    that's less than .0055% would love to see at least .05% and make at least 70% of that OTR bet it would be so inconclusive no judgment could be made but that would fit closer to the way PEOPLE ARE we are all different and have such different sleep patterns it not then there would be no city that NEVER Sleeps and there would only be one shift not three
     
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  11. Feb 17, 2014 #9
    truckerdave1970

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    As a COLOSSAL WASTE OF TIME AND TAXPAYER'S MONEY!!!


    B/C AS WE ALL KNOW FIGURES DON'T LIE,
    BUT LIARS SURE CAN FIGURE!!!
     
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  12. Feb 17, 2014 #10
    rodknocker

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    I know I see a lot more accidents these days. I remember being able to stop when your tired. Now we stop when they say we are tired but we can only do it in the window of opportunity.
     
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